Ferrari Supercar to get twin-turbo V8

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by Autocar

Ferrari will not make widespread use of carbonfibre in its production road cars until it better understands the material’s long-term reliability, according to company boss Amedeo Felisa.

“We will only use carbonfibre on very special cars which have a very low rate of production and which are not for everyday use, such as the new Enzo,” he said in an exclusive interview with Autocar.

See pictures of the Ferrari Millechili concept, plus the original Enzo

Ferrari has used carbonfibre in such cars as the F50 and Enzo, but Felisa says it is not yet ready to use it across its model range. This puts it at odds with McLaren, whose MP4-12C supercar has a carbon tub. Mercedes is also committed to using carbonfibre in its cars from 2012, as is BMW from 2013.

“The fact is that nobody today has a real understanding of what happens if you damage a carbonfibre structure,” says Felisa. “After 20 or 30 years of use, who knows what state a carbonfibre structure will be in? Only the airplane industry has a long-term understanding of using carbonfibre, and there the usage is very different. Unless you have a really big accident, it is possible to repair a Ferrari today, and we don’t want to lose that.”

Felisa also hinted that the new Ferrari Enzo will be powered by a direct-injection twin-turbo V8 when it is launched in 2012.

Reports had long suggested the new Enzo would be powered by either a V8 or direct-injection twin-turbo V6. However, Felisa has ruled out a six-cylinder engine.

“There are no plans for a six-cylinder engine today,” Felisa said. “Ferrari will not build a six-cylinder engine until customer attitudes towards smaller engines change.

“The perception today is that the number of cylinders equates to the possibilities of the car. That is why we are developing hybrid technology that can be applied to our V8 and V10 cars. Hybrid means we can protect the V12.


Jim Holder

So not only BMW M is going FI but also Ferrari just as the latest McLaren.

[Muffnbluff]

Nothing new for Ferrari, the F40 was twin turbo.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Muffnbluff

Nothing new for Ferrari, the F40 was twin turbo.

Exactly. Here is an oldie, Former F1 driver Jacques Laffitte driving a +700BHP LM.
That sound.....

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by Robin Hood

Exactly. Here is an oldie, Former F1 driver Jacques Laffitte driving a +700BHP LM.
That sound.....

OMG, that's f****** scary

[footie]

Originally Posted by Levi

So not only BMW M is going FI but also Ferrari just as the latest McLaren.

And is FI somehow new in performance cars?

[BMW269]

Yes. Talk to Advevo and try to convince him to get a 911 Turbo over 911 GT3, a 135i over 130i.

[DM1]

Originally Posted by Levi

OMG, that's f****** scary

AND he's not even wearing a helmet! NICE!

[footie]

Originally Posted by Levi

Yes. Talk to Advevo and try to convince him to get a 911 Turbo over 911 GT3, a 135i over 130i.

And I bet he still would prefer the 458 compared to this Enzo Mk2.

[BMW269]

I bet he would take Lotus Elise over Gumper Apollo.

[mtla4]

Add me in the same basket as Advevo...I cant careless about F/I cars...I had some Im done for a while........

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Levi

Yes. Talk to Advevo and try to convince him to get a 911 Turbo over 911 GT3, a 135i over 130i.

Do you know André(personally)?
Or you know him from another forum.

Originally Posted by footie

And I bet he still would prefer the 458 compared to this Enzo Mk2.

A few weeks ago we sat in a 458 in our BMW dealer showroom. Advevo wasn't convinced by its looks and pricetag.

Cheers
Robin

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by Robin Hood

Do you know André(personally)?
Or you know him from another forum.



A few weeks ago we sat in a 458 in our BMW dealer showroom. Advevo wasn't convinced by its looks and pricetag.

Cheers
Robin

I do not criticize Advevo. I agree with all what he says. I am just more open to FI now, and I find it interesting to see the progress of FI, and this that we shall see in the new turbo sportcars as the M1, MP4-12C and F Supercar.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Levi

I do not criticize Advevo. I agree with all what he says. I am just more open to FI now, and I find it interesting to see the progress of FI, and this that we shall see in the new turbo sportcars as the M1, MP4-12C and F Supercar.

I agree in almost all what he says.

"Turbo engines are best suited for WRC/4wd rallycars"

...and for big saloons like the F10.

And yes the MP4-12C will be a big pain in the ass for the 458 I guess.