Will the new F30 BMW 335i be a e9x M3 killer?

[Elie335i]

Originally Posted by I Love My Car

M3 will eat the 335 for breakfast and throw the leftovers to the dog for lunch. 335 is just so cheesy and unstable and so "common". An M is an M, thats always a level above regular series, an M3 on the other hand is "the" M, thats a level above all other M cars and always leads them.

Oh and I don't think anyone here gives a shit about the 335, sorry. Maybe you should take your case to the 3series forum.

yeah sure with the LACK of torque of the useless V8 right? lol

here's for your education purpose:

PS: We still talking about stock turbos here, we didn't talk about upgraded 335i turbos.

same movie but camera man is the " M " car, look at the kid face, he knows he's gonna get killed by the N54 lul

IF I wanted a 3 series, I wouldn't waste money on an ///M I would get a 335is, and spend the money on another car.

[bmwm3redblack]

Originally Posted by Elie335i

yeah sure with the LACK of torque of the useless V8 right? lol

here's for your education purpose:

PS: We still talking about stock turbos here, we didn't talk about upgraded 335i turbos.

same movie but camera man is the " M " car, look at the kid face, he knows he's gonna get killed by the N54 lul

IF I wanted a 3 series, I wouldn't waste money on an ///M I would get a 335is, and spend the money on another car.

That's unfair comparison,cause 335i using meth. We can compare stock m3 vs chipped 335i but no racegas or meth!!! That's how it should be!!!!!


i like 335i but an ///M car is totaly different league,believe me. I came from e 46 m3 to 335xi 6sp,and i have to say that i love m3 more cause it's much better car in many aspects(throttle response,look good,and just the feeling of smth special,i'm not telling about great sound)!!!!!!!

[BMRLVR]

Originally Posted by Elie335i

yeah sure with the LACK of torque of the useless V8 right? lol

here's for your education purpose:

PS: We still talking about stock turbos here, we didn't talk about upgraded 335i turbos.

same movie but camera man is the " M " car, look at the kid face, he knows he's gonna get killed by the N54 lul

IF I wanted a 3 series, I wouldn't waste money on an ///M I would get a 335is, and spend the money on another car.

If the M3 V8 is so useless why do you 335i guys love slumming around at M3 post all the time?. Something to prove maybe!? There is more to a car than straight-line speed you know. How long is your HPFP going to last on a modded engine when it can't even stand up on a stock car!?

Anyway guys, stop feeding the troll!

[quiksi]

Originally Posted by richpuer

E46 330 smokes e36 m3, e92 335 smokes e46 m3, Fxx 335 smokes e92 m3, and so on and so forth...history repeats

the E46 330 doesn't smoke the "real" (not the nerfed US spec) E36 M3

[Ablahad]

IF I wanted a 3 series, I wouldn't waste money on an ///M I would get a 335is, and spend the money on another car.

However the 335is doesn't feel like an M3, handle like an M3, look like a M3, command the same respect as an M3, have the connected feel of an M3(biggest thing in my opinion), etc....

335's are great cars, but the drive they offer isn't even close. And modified cars versus stock cars don't make much sense.

[Ablahad]

And I would sincerely hope that a thoroughly modified 335 would beat an M3 in a straight line. By the line of thinking that faster is better, I have a buddy with a 5.0 GT modified that will put any 335 to shame, mods or not. Ford GT wins!

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by Ablahad

And I would sincerely hope that a thoroughly modified 335 would beat an M3 in a straight line. By the line of thinking that faster is better, I have a buddy with a 5.0 GT modified that will put any 335 to shame, mods or not. Ford GT wins!

There are other cars can smoke ford gt

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by turbomma

There has been so much comparison between the current generation 335i vs M3, with some publications recommending the cheaper 335i due to the turbo engine's everyday flexibility.

I wonder how will the new F30 335i fare in comparison with the current generation M3. Its not uncommon for the BMW to up the performance of the regular models in the new series.

Its like comparing the E46 M3 versus the E9x 335i.

What do you guys think?

I cannot agree with that. If you ever visited the M Division then you would know that before any M car goes into production they replace about 50% of the parts so to me that makes the M car (be it a 3, 5 or 6) unique. What do you think?

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

That's unfair comparison,cause 335i using meth. We can compare stock m3 vs chipped 335i but no racegas or meth!!! That's how it should be!!!!!


i like 335i but an ///M car is totaly different league,believe me. I came from e 46 m3 to 335xi 6sp,and i have to say that i love m3 more cause it's much better car in many aspects(throttle response,look good,and just the feeling of smth special,i'm not telling about great sound)!!!!!!!

In my opinion this does not mean anything We all know it all depends on the driver.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

The current 335i with a tune obliterates the M3. With a tune, the e9x M3 won't stand a chance. One thing still stands out...that ///M badge. Whatever BMW puts into the next 335i, it still won't have that ///M. Not that it matters anymore.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

What BMW should of done was put in somewhere around the C63's HP numbers to keep the M3 from being embarrassed. 295 lb ft of torque really is sad. My sisters 650i has 360!

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

What BMW should of done was put in somewhere around the C63's HP numbers to keep the M3 from being embarrassed. 295 lb ft of torque really is sad. My sisters 650i has 360!

Too much torque with make the car kinda unbalanced on the track.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by christopherchenm

Too much torque with make the car kinda unbalanced on the track.

If a 650i can handle it, an M3 should as well.

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

If a 650i can handle it, an M3 should as well.

High rev engine doesnt carry a lot of torque. You are comparing an M car and a daily driver.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by christopherchenm

High rev engine doesnt carry a lot of torque. You are comparing an M car and a daily driver.

Isn't that BMW's claim to fame? A car that you can use day to day but also use at the track? The M3 weights 3700 pounds. That is no way a track toy. What BMW failed to realize is that, it's really not either. They failed to make it a proper daily driver. Then they failed to make it a proper track toy. High rev engines can be tailored to carry more torque.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Going to get flamed for my previous comment.

[LemonOne]

Originally Posted by spyderco10

oh good, the 335 vs m3 threads will continue even with the new f30, even before it comes out.

+1

Man... it's hot in here.
What are you guys smoking seriously?
Never seen so many "Smoke" word in one thread.

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

Isn't that BMW's claim to fame? A car that you can use day to day but also use at the track? The M3 weights 3700 pounds. That is no way a track toy. What BMW failed to realize is that, it's really not either. They failed to make it a proper daily driver. Then they failed to make it a proper track toy. High rev engines can be tailored to carry more torque.

You gotta pay to play. Theres no way a high rev engine with low end torque. Also M3 lacks low end torque but i will not complain. My c63 with 630NM torque but every time i step on the pedal the wheels scream.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by christopherchenm

You gotta pay to play. Theres no way a high rev engine with low end torque. Also M3 lacks low end torque but i will not complain. My c63 with 630NM torque but every time i step on the pedal the wheels scream.

That makes no sense. Like I said, Mercedes went all out and put a 6.2L V8 under the hood(I like to call it the fist of God.) 295 lb ft of torque is pathetic and anemic. If the car has 430 hp and somewhere around 310 or 320 lb ft of torque. It would of been epic. BMW in general skimped with the e9x gen. Everything was half-assed.

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

That makes no sense. Like I said, Mercedes went all out and put a 6.2L V8 under the hood(I like to call it the fist of God.) 295 lb ft of torque is pathetic and anemic. If the car has 430 hp and somewhere around 310 or 320 lb ft of torque. It would of been epic. BMW in general skimped with the e9x gen. Everything was half-assed.

More torque doesnt mean anything. I drive my c63 to the track and the excessive torque distract me a lot.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by christopherchenm

More torque doesnt mean anything. I drive my c63 to the track and the excessive torque distract me a lot.

You're not a professional racing driver. Torque just lets you hang the backside out whenever you want. Yes the C63 AMG has a lot of torque, but that can be fixed. All you need is some wider tires.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

I understand that the torque curve is linear also, and that power progressively comes on. Mercedes makes almost 85% of torque and HP available at around 2500.