HELP ESS 535 vt1 Will i be satisfied?

[CSanto]

Originally Posted by Bob MG

You know my feelings on this...

My GT2 just dynoed 600whp and 818 wheel torque Nm (604 ftlbs)

So basically my VT2 625 feels like I'm reversing LOL

Originally Posted by fxrdoc

I am interested in this kit as well. My dilemma is that my other car is a head/cam Z06 making 560 rwhp. I love my M3 and would love it even more with a SC, but i fear it will never really feel fast no matter what i do.

An M3 will never be a GT2 or a Cammed Z06.

I'm in no way looking to make it that either.

[m33]

I would get the 575 kit if I were you and since you already have catless exhaust system that will bump you up to 600hp good power and intercooled ! Then when you do upgrade all your upgrading is tunes,pulley& injectors

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by Bob MG

You know my feelings on this...

My GT2 just dynoed 600whp and 818 wheel torque Nm (604 ftlbs)

So basically my VT2 625 feels like I'm reversing LOL

Is this with upgraded Turbo's, what type of dyno?

[ssabripo]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

My personal car runs a VT1-535 here in AZ where our temps are usually 100+. I daily and track the car here without issue and the car runs like a champ. Many of our customers also track the VT1-525. Like all systems heat will play a factor in power output intercooled or not and hot humid weather will reduce power in all cars.

If you find you need more power later down the road you can always upgrade

my worry is not the "more power later" dilemma, but rather not throwing CELs and other error codes in normal driving in the middle of July when I'm taking the family to Orlando from Miami.

I'm obviously not as experienced in this arena as some of you, but surely adding some forced induction (no matter how small the pressure is) into this engine without any additional cooling will have some negative effects eventually...... no?

[Sal@AUTOcouture]

Currently at the shop we have a VT1-535 DCT, VT2-600 6MT and soon a VT2-650 DCT. Come for some rides, I'm sure you'll be able to choose what's right for you

[sales@ESSTuning]

Originally Posted by ssabripo

my worry is not the "more power later" dilemma, but rather not throwing CELs and other error codes in normal driving in the middle of July when I'm taking the family to Orlando from Miami.

I'm obviously not as experienced in this arena as some of you, but surely adding some forced induction (no matter how small the pressure is) into this engine without any additional cooling will have some negative effects eventually...... no?

Never had an issue with our VT1-535 kit and we have sold close to 100 of them worldwide.

[JDM3]

Loved my 535 kit but I wanted more so went with 625

[ssabripo]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

Never had an issue with our VT1-535 kit and we have sold close to 100 of them worldwide.

that's great to hear!

maybe I'll give you a call and we can talk more in person.

[WERKE]

Go with 535, you don't regret it! I coul'd imagine my M3 without this kit; when i will remove the SC, i will sell the car. The E9X M3 is an amazing car, but with the ESS kit, it's a complete animal.

[GOLFFRR]

ESS FTW will def be glad you did it. I grin every time I get in the car

[Bob MG]

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Is this with upgraded Turbo's, what type of dyno?

Hi Drew, yes that's with the EVT 775 upgrade installed with the bigger turbos.

Was a Dastek dyno uncorrected

I'm at 5500 ft altitude

For comparison, my previous and another VT2 600 made:
470 whp and 430 Nm torque (317 ftlbs) so you have an idea of how this dyno under reads.

I will take my VT2 625 and do a run for comparison this week.

I was using 95 RON pump gas with a tin of NF ULTRA octane booster. I'm not sure if the octane moves up as much as claimed so best way will be to get some 109 RON sunoco and run again but we cant get stock at the moment

another EVT 775 in Dubai made 656 whp/583 torque

[Bob MG]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Stop that.

I'm not joking either look at this

I love this kind of thread! I absolutely love my VT2 625

In my previous M I started with a 575 as i was DCT and you couldn't go more without the DCT software.

I begged and pleaded and upgraded to 600 which was fantastic.


You can never have enough power, I'm sure the first time you experience the 535 kit its awesome but if you happen to drive in a 600 or more, you gonna want that trust me. Its all about what you are prepared to spend, there should be no other consideration in helping to make up your mind.

I have zero worries about reliability as I'm sold on ESS 100 times over!

I would at least go an inter-cooled kit like 575 to start as its easier and quicker to upgrade from there

[erm324]

^like BobMG said....You wont be satisfied with the 535 kit - I say at the least start with the 575 (so you already have the intercooler and vt2 manifold) and if you want to upgrade its an easy swap of pulleys injectors and tune.

Also, alot of the time people think that the higher power blower kits will sacrifice the driveabilityof the car. The car drives exactly the same (literally) and you cant hear the blower from inside the car - its only after 4500 where hell breaks loose. Also, you dont need to use the boost all the time, I drive under 5k about 90% of the time and sometimes forget the blower is there until I step on it.

[Bob MG]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

F@ck me running that is sick!

Son. When you coming to visit your old man in SA?

[sales@ESSTuning]

Originally Posted by Bob MG

I'm not joking either look at this

I love this kind of thread! I absolutely love my VT2 625

In my previous M I started with a 575 as i was DCT and you couldn't go more without the DCT software.

I begged and pleaded and upgraded to 600 which was fantastic.


You can never have enough power, I'm sure the first time you experience the 535 kit its awesome but if you happen to drive in a 600 or more, you gonna want that trust me. Its all about what you are prepared to spend, there should be no other consideration in helping to make up your mind.

I have zero worries about reliability as I'm sold on ESS 100 times over!

I would at least go an inter-cooled kit like 575 to start as its easier and quicker to upgrade from there

That is wicked fast With improvements now to the stock DCT software you can run up to 625 without the need to upgrade software.

[Bob MG]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

That is wicked fast With improvements now to the stock DCT software you can run up to 625 without the need to upgrade software.

Bud I love my new SC
The 625 kit is a great upgrade on the 600 I couldn't even contemplate an M3 without it

[Malek@MRF]

You will always want more power. It's weird how we operate as humans, but we adapt very quickly and even some of the fastest cars car begin to feel "normal" after a while.

My 700+ RWHP Lexus IS300 in a 3100 lb car felt slow after some time, while to others it was the scariest thing that have been in.

With all that being said, if the supporting modifications are not made to actually put the power down to the ground efficiently, it will not matter. Feeling fast and being fast are 2 different things.

Malek

[GIdriver]

Originally Posted by HREM3

I want to revive this thread as I'm contemplating the purchase of the VT1-535 kit. I'm held up by the additional 3,000 of the VT2-575. I only see myself having this car another 2-2.5 years. I also want to do a few other upgrades and that 3,000 will pay for those.

So I think I could get all my mods 535 kit/KW SO kit/X-pipe/LCI tails for about the same price as just the VT2 575.

I'm in the same boat, I just dont want to be disappointed in the 535 lvl kit.

Well, thank you for reviving this thread. I forgot about S/C'ing my e90, but thanks to you its in my head again.

Note to self: do not read this thread again...

[WERKE]

Fucking thread...Roman, how much to upgrade to VT-2 600?

[CSanto]

lol sorry guys, but this is a very good thread. Nobody wants buyers remorse on something like this.

[CBS]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

Never had an issue with our VT1-535 kit and we have sold close to 100 of them worldwide.

Originally Posted by ssabripo

that's great to hear!

maybe I'll give you a call and we can talk more in person.

I have had my VT1-535 for over a year - LOVE it!

I have tracked in 107 degree heat and never experienced any problems or limp mode. Of course the power wasn't the same but still very powerful.

I agree you always want more HP but I also have College Bills to pay.

Very impressive kit for the money!

[Bob MG]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Don't forget paying for the real horses... I'm dealing with that right now. What is it with girls and horses?!

Son I thought you were a 600?