AD08 or PSS??

thurston · 03-18-2012, 09:58 AM

I'm going with either AD08's or PSS's, 255/35 & 295/30. Will be on KW V3's. Price isn't an issue. DD with very spirited driving. Please let me know your recommendations. Thanks in advance!

-Travis

M3SQRD · 03-18-2012, 12:13 PM

AD08 for all out dry performance. They will have a slightly harsher ride due to stiffer sidewall, compromised wet performance due to maximized contact patch surface area, and fewer miles before needing to be replaced.

PSS for a better "overall" tire. It won't have the same level of dry performance but much better wet performance and a more comfortable ride. Also, you should get more miles out of them before they need to be replaced.

Not too long ago I was comparing these two tires and I ended up going with the PSS. Compared to the OEM PS2 the PSS performs much better in the dry and wet. The sidewall is a little on the soft side compared to extreme performance tires - it doesn't seem to have a huge impact on performance but it definitely does improve ride quality.

thurston · 03-18-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarnes

AD08 for all out dry performance. They will have a slightly harsher ride due to stiffer sidewall, compromised wet performance due to maximized contact patch surface area, and fewer miles before needing to be replaced.

PSS for a better "overall" tire. It won't have the same level of dry performance but much better wet performance and a more comfortable ride. Also, you should get more miles out of them before they need to be replaced.

Not too long ago I was comparing these two tires and I ended up going with the PSS. Compared to the OEM PS2 the PSS performs much better in the dry and wet. The sidewall is a little on the soft side compared to extreme performance tires - it doesn't seem to have a huge impact on performance but it definitely does improve ride quality.

Fantastic info! Thank you.

M3SQRD · 03-18-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tvieso

Fantastic info! Thank you.

signes · 03-18-2012, 10:21 PM

Agree with dbarnes, although the wet performance ding that AD08s get around here is unjustified IMO. I have no complaints about wet weather grip, although have not done wet laps on a track with them. I am even running pretty wide at 275-295. The rest is spot on, fantastic grip but firmer than the Michelins and once worn they can get pretty loud. I will also say after looking to replace my rears, that the price delta between the AD08s v. PSS seems to have shrunk (a lot).

M3SQRD · 03-19-2012, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by signes

Agree with dbarnes, although the wet performance ding that AD08s get around here is unjustified IMO. I have no complaints about wet weather grip, although have not done wet laps on a track with them. I am even running pretty wide at 275-295. The rest is spot on, fantastic grip but firmer than the Michelins and once worn they can get pretty loud. I will also say after looking to replace my rears, that the price delta between the AD08s v. PSS seems to have shrunk (a lot).

As for the wet performance of the AD08s perhaps "compromised" was a poor word choice. I do agree that the AD08 has OK wet performance so a better description would have been reduced wet performance compared to the PSS on the street.

HK8888 · 03-19-2012, 06:55 AM

PSS. +1

jonasaurus · 03-19-2012, 07:11 AM

For DD would definitely go with the PSS

Black Gold · 03-19-2012, 07:16 AM

I have had PSS and "real" extreme performance summer tires in RE-11 and now RS-3 from Hankook, and I notice the difference with the more aggressive tires.

I always disliked the substantial roll of the car and the tires with stiffer sidewalls go a long way to alleviate that.

If you do spirited driving, i think its worth giving the ad08 a shot.

OC3 · 03-19-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tvieso

I'm going with either AD08's or PSS's, 255/35 & 295/30. Will be on KW V3's. Price isn't an issue. DD with very spirited driving. Please let me know your recommendations. Thanks in advance!

-Travis

Based on this description, PSS.

Malek@MRF · 03-19-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tvieso

I'm going with either AD08's or PSS's, 255/35 & 295/30. Will be on KW V3's. Price isn't an issue. DD with very spirited driving. Please let me know your recommendations. Thanks in advance!

-Travis

The Michelin tires would be a better choice for your specified use.

You can also look into the Bridgestone Potenza S0-4 tires as well, as they are a great tire.

Malek

chili cheese · 03-19-2012, 02:48 PM

AD08s will get noisy and probably a bit harsher ride.

radiantm3 · 03-19-2012, 11:30 PM

I've done a couple wet track sessions with my AD08's and felt very confident with them. They do just fine in the rain IMO.

thurston · 03-22-2012, 07:30 PM

Thanks for all the responses! I'll let you know what I end up going with.

Eric-TAIWAN · 03-24-2012, 02:26 PM

I use ad08 and I don't think it's loud at all cuz my catless is much louder

I've track wet once and it hold up pretty good!

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