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      12-15-2009, 08:46 PM   #155
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Kobe hot in the first half and now missing everything..even free throws.
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he still got 40 points tho, imagine if he didnt miss!

but look at fisher man! 23 minutes 0 points, and the rest of the numbers arent too bright
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he still got 40 points tho, imagine if he didnt miss!

but look at fisher man! 23 minutes 0 points, and the rest of the numbers arent too bright
Kobe got his points tonight but he had a bad game overall. I think he has like 8 turn overs.
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yah he could have scored those 82 points tonight haha
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yeah, granted kobe is a great player and can score a bunch, but during last night game, there were times when he kinda forced the issue too much, unnecessary forced shots..not sure what he was tryign to do..to prove his finger aint hurt? well, that kinda hurt the lakers offense..fish, gasol, artest were all crap last night..and we're playing the bulls..come on, man!

anyway, a win is a win..i'll take it, too bad the starters couldnt get an early night since they get a b2b tonite..and milwaukee is the best team on this road trip, at .500
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i'll leave this to OC335 to defend Kobe. i am sure he sees something extremely bright and good about what we see as a negative, when it comes to Kobe and the Lakers

lol no really... John, what's ur take on last night's game? sorry for wording the above like a dick
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i'll leave this to OC335 to defend Kobe. i am sure he sees something extremely bright and good about what we see as a negative, when it comes to Kobe and the Lakers

lol no really... John, what's ur take on last night's game? sorry for wording the above like a dick
hehehe..you don't have to worry about John, we can beat his ass up...
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Kobe was on fire. Some of his turnovers were when he was trying to split the double teams and is adjusting to a broken finger on his dominant right hand. You take the good with the bad and in his case the positives outweigh the negatives more often than not.

A bigger issue of concern IMO is Andrew Bynum's tendency to play harder on offense than he does on defense. His lack of rebound as of late has been pretty awful. Artest had plenty of looks (which was one of the players you indicated). Gasol and Bynum didn't have that many though. Some of it was by design by Chicago, some of it was the Lakers not passing the ball to them enough.

When he shoots over 50%, then he has a license to shoot all he wants. His presence alone opens it up for other players. He shot 58% last night! A couple of his shots were bail out shots and one of them was a half court heave. Take those away and he's by far shooting over 60%. Did you notice that Jon Salmons was pretty ineffective? Kobe gave him fits all game and forced him to be in foul trouble.

Let's plot it out: Kobe had 11 misses.
Reverse layup - Blocked Noah
Fadeaway - missed
Jumpshot - missed
3 Pt shot - Blocked Hinrich
3 pt - missed
Layup - Blocked Miller
3 pt shot missed - Half court shot with .1 left
3 pt missed
Jumpshot missed
Jumpshot missed
Layup blocked

So 4 shots were blocked, at least one was a foul from what I recall that wasn't called. 1 was a last second heave. I think when you are that hot you should be given the benefit of the doubt there.
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hehehe..you don't have to worry about John, we can beat his ass up...
Not so fast old man. Come down to OC and we can spar for fun.
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Kobe was on fire. Some of his turnovers were when he was trying to split the double teams and is adjusting to a broken finger on his dominant right hand. You take the good with the bad and in his case the positives outweigh the negatives more often than not.

A bigger issue of concern IMO is Andrew Bynum's tendency to play harder on offense than he does on defense. His lack of rebound as of late has been pretty awful. Artest had plenty of looks (which was one of the players you indicated). Gasol and Bynum didn't have that many though. Some of it was by design by Chicago, some of it was the Lakers not passing the ball to them enough.

When he shoots over 50%, then he has a license to shoot all he wants. His presence alone opens it up for other players. He shot 58% last night! A couple of his shots were bail out shots and one of them was a half court heave. Take those away and he's by far shooting over 60%. Did you notice that Jon Salmons was pretty ineffective? Kobe gave him fits all game and forced him to be in foul trouble.

Let's plot it out: Kobe had 11 misses.
Reverse layup - Blocked Noah
Fadeaway - missed
Jumpshot - missed
3 Pt shot - Blocked Hinrich
3 pt - missed
Layup - Blocked Miller
3 pt shot missed - Half court shot with .1 left
3 pt missed
Jumpshot missed
Jumpshot missed
Layup blocked

So 4 shots were blocked, at least one was a foul from what I recall that wasn't called. 1 was a last second heave. I think when you are that hot you should be given the benefit of the doubt there.
are you freakin kiddin me!?!? what the hell, man...did you have your Elias right next to you or somethin?
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Not so fast old man. Come down to OC and we can spar for fun.
dude i'm in OC all the times, just never had a chance to get you and your groupies, but we'll have to make it happen sometimes though..i'm heading down there this weekend but got a couple of Xmas parties, GG and Westminster...
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dude i'm in OC all the times, just never had a chance to get you and your groupies, but we'll have to make it happen sometimes though..i'm heading down there this weekend but got a couple of Xmas parties, GG and Westminster...
Sounds good man, don't be a stranger. I'll beat up Nabil tonight.
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Kobe's FG% has been great for the season. He just needs to stop shooting 3's and he will be at 50% for the season.
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hehehe..you don't have to worry about John, we can beat his ass up...
idk about that man... damn i get pwnd every time i go there!
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Kobe was on fire. Some of his turnovers were when he was trying to split the double teams and is adjusting to a broken finger on his dominant right hand. You take the good with the bad and in his case the positives outweigh the negatives more often than not.

A bigger issue of concern IMO is Andrew Bynum's tendency to play harder on offense than he does on defense. His lack of rebound as of late has been pretty awful. Artest had plenty of looks (which was one of the players you indicated). Gasol and Bynum didn't have that many though. Some of it was by design by Chicago, some of it was the Lakers not passing the ball to them enough.

When he shoots over 50%, then he has a license to shoot all he wants. His presence alone opens it up for other players. He shot 58% last night! A couple of his shots were bail out shots and one of them was a half court heave. Take those away and he's by far shooting over 60%. Did you notice that Jon Salmons was pretty ineffective? Kobe gave him fits all game and forced him to be in foul trouble.

Let's plot it out: Kobe had 11 misses.
Reverse layup - Blocked Noah
Fadeaway - missed
Jumpshot - missed
3 Pt shot - Blocked Hinrich
3 pt - missed
Layup - Blocked Miller
3 pt shot missed - Half court shot with .1 left
3 pt missed
Jumpshot missed
Jumpshot missed
Layup blocked

So 4 shots were blocked, at least one was a foul from what I recall that wasn't called. 1 was a last second heave. I think when you are that hot you should be given the benefit of the doubt there.
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fack man, u tell me that in jiujitsu and now on the boards.
i know i remembered the same thing as i typed that! when we going to jits again?
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i know i remembered the same thing as i typed that! when we going to jits again?
Tonight 8pm?
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sounds appealing, i gotta figure out my brother's thing tho. i think it starts at 9. if that's the case i'll have to go tomorrow
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