|
|
03-01-2011, 04:53 AM | #133 |
The Jesal
391
Rep 5,859
Posts |
BMRLVR, great post.
This engine has been out for over 3 years and many have hard track miles on them. I think its proven to be pretty reliable for the masses.
__________________
2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-01-2011, 08:10 AM | #134 |
Major General
1250
Rep 6,912
Posts |
+1
__________________
2022 Dravit/Fiona M3cx - Dinan midpipe w/VC, NW Carbonhaus CF, AST Springs, FC Spacers...more to come!
2016 Indi F80 M3 - SMB|Amaro | Mode Carbon | ESS | Akra EVO | KW HAS...SOLD 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, ESS SC, Brembo BBK, BBS FI... GONE but not forgotten! 2008 AW e92 M3 6MT, ESS SC, BBS LM's...SOLD! |
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2011, 09:28 AM | #136 |
Boost Junkie
0
Rep 14
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2011, 03:11 PM | #137 | |
Brigadier General
501
Rep 4,033
Posts |
Quote:
I appreciate everyone's contributions, especially those with experience who have taken the time to post up valuable info. Hopefully the motor will be torn down next week and Gintani will post up pics soon after. Appreciate all the kind words as well guys.
__________________
16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ
08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2011, 03:15 PM | #138 |
Brigadier General
501
Rep 4,033
Posts |
Appreciate that Jeff.
__________________
16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ
08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2011, 06:16 PM | #139 | |
Grease Monkey
294
Rep 2,646
Posts
Drives: 2011 E90 M3,1994 Euro E36 M3/4
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada
|
Quote:
Like I said previously, the use of a water/meth/pump gas setup on a daily driven application is not ideal in my opinion. I suggest you run reduced boost/reduced compression upon the repair of your engine if you are keeping the SC and want it to last if you intend to daily drive it. Best of luck with the repairs and I look forward to seeing further information on the cause(s) of the failure. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-04-2011, 10:56 AM | #140 | |
Brigadier General
501
Rep 4,033
Posts |
Quote:
Currently what I plan on doing is lowering the boost to 6.5 psi initially and running it that way for awhile, and if I do any spirited driving, or hit the track I will most likely add some race gas to be extra safe. I am not sure how long I am going to keep the car, but if I do a built motor with LC, it will be in the future that is if I can't decide on another car, etc. While I love the car, and did very much enjoy it before it failed, I'm keeping my options open.
__________________
16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ
08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH Last edited by DLSJ5; 03-04-2011 at 11:02 AM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-04-2011, 02:21 PM | #141 |
Banned
114
Rep 2,682
Posts |
This was exactly My point on the Meth theory it simply ain't worth the risk , fill her up with 93 and go any joe shmo can do this ....
Its impressive to see Gintani taking care of you Drew ! Gives you a Good sense of security... |
Appreciate
0
|
03-08-2011, 08:47 PM | #142 |
Modder Raider
753
Rep 8,633
Posts
Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Surf City, HB
|
I'd like to add my input with running meth for a daily driver.
I'm currently running meth with daily driving and I don't see any issues if done right. There are fail safes that could be put in place that relieves boost if meth flow isn't working and there are flow gages for the driver instead of just the idiot light. Just because the green light is on doesn't necessarily mean that meth is actually making into the intake manifold. But, I do like the idea of having a pump gas only option.
__________________
e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan
e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM |
Appreciate
0
|
03-09-2011, 09:55 AM | #143 |
Brigadier General
236
Rep 3,303
Posts |
Ok, I will be the dick that the entire forum will hate.....
This is not the first car to be blown up, so OP, don't feel bad or alone, the other incidents were much more cloak and dagger with the aftermarket company involved trying to bury the incident. This is no different then the tuning issues experienced on the N54's, when those like Shiv seduced people with their power gains and cheap tuning offerings, then when things blew up, buried it and attacked anyone who suggested otherwise, DESPITE THOSE BLOWUPS HAPPENING AT A CERTAIN FORUM MEMBER'S LOCAL DEALERSHIP WHERE HIS GOOD FRIEND IS THE SM. Bottom Line: the S65 was not designed for this, I don't care what anyone says. There may be a multiple of parts on the S65 that might fail after normal use after 100k+ of miles that will fail exponentially faster when exposed to 9+psi of boost if the internals of the engine are not changed to specs for this type of application. Everyone seems to think that everyone can tune as well as BMW, and that if someone advertises they can do something, and accomplish it a few times, means they must be capable, which is far from the truth. I'm not bashing Gianti (as they seem to have done the right thing here) or any other tuner on here, but bottom line, BMW has produced 100s of thousands of vehicles in their entire product range with few engine blow ups. That takes skill in engineering and precision manufacturing......the thought that people believe a small company with a fraction of the RD capabilities and financial backing can do this is mind boggling to me. The fact that there have been a handful of blown-engines is not what surprises me, its that there haven't been more. Everyone bitches about the expense of factory tunes (335is) and factory exhausts, but they fail to realize that when something is DONE PROPERLY, big gains are not cheap, and many times not possible while remaining within certain safety parameters and longevity requirements. For those who throw caution to the wind, I applaud you and your sense of adventure and desire for more performance. But, I hope no one for a second is surprised by any unintended consequences. Cheers, e46e92
__________________
"...it's not about the money and not about the brand of the car, it's about handling,performance and passion......And that, no other car has all together like an M3........when you talk about the most complete car the M is invincible." --Tony Kanaan. Last edited by e46e92love; 03-09-2011 at 05:16 PM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
03-10-2011, 11:41 AM | #144 |
Brigadier General
501
Rep 4,033
Posts |
Hey Guys -
Currently the long block is stuck in customs. One of the most frustrating parts of this ordeal has been the shipping, it has taken far too long. I am hoping it is at Gintani by early next week. The old motor is out of the car now and should be broken down soon.
__________________
16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ
08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
Appreciate
0
|
03-10-2011, 12:40 PM | #145 | |
///M Powered for Life
11480
Rep 10,328
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-10-2011, 08:47 PM | #146 | |
Brigadier General
249
Rep 3,157
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
Past: Gintani stage3 M3, Cayman GTS present: Porsche 993RWB, 964RS America,996 cupcar, 964 turbo 3.6,Macan Turbo,997GT2,930 turbo,i3, MINI JCW |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-10-2011, 11:24 PM | #147 |
Lieutenant General
611
Rep 10,407
Posts |
Although I agree with the overall premise of your post. You should also allow for distinguishing the reliability of things like engine "accessories" such as meth injection systems, as compared to engine internals themselves. I'm not an expert in either engine tribology nor internal dynamics/dynamic stress. However, the guys over at ESS in their words about engine internals on their website (link), as well as much anecdotal evidence from the aftermarket tuning world (all types of FI), both lead me to believe that there is plenty of engineering safety margin for a significant amount of boost pressure purely with regards to internals.
__________________
E92 M3 | Space Gray on Fox Red | M-DCT | CF Roof | RAC RG63 Wheels | Brembo 380mm BBK | | Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust | Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors | | Alekshop Back up Camera | GP Thunders | BMW Aluminum Pedals | Elite Angels | | XPEL Full Front Wrap | Hardwired V1 | Interior Xenon Light Kit | |
Appreciate
0
|
03-11-2011, 12:17 PM | #149 |
Brigadier General
501
Rep 4,033
Posts |
I think my next car will have FI from the factory. Might just wait it out for the new M3, it would be hard to let go of the M3 now, love the car too much, I can't wait to get it back.
Or maybe switch to one of these in a year or so... My son sitting in a friends GT2, he loves M3's, but after sitting in this GT2, he might have been converted, lol.
__________________
16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ
08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH Last edited by DLSJ5; 03-11-2011 at 07:21 PM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
03-11-2011, 12:23 PM | #150 | ||||
Brigadier General
501
Rep 4,033
Posts |
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Thank you! Quote:
__________________
16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ
08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
||||
Appreciate
0
|
03-11-2011, 12:24 PM | #151 |
Brigadier General
501
Rep 4,033
Posts |
Hey Eugene, how is your car coming along?
__________________
16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ
08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
Appreciate
0
|
03-11-2011, 07:02 PM | #152 |
Brigadier General
249
Rep 3,157
Posts |
__________________
Past: Gintani stage3 M3, Cayman GTS present: Porsche 993RWB, 964RS America,996 cupcar, 964 turbo 3.6,Macan Turbo,997GT2,930 turbo,i3, MINI JCW |
Appreciate
0
|
03-12-2011, 01:17 AM | #153 | |
Banned
114
Rep 2,682
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-12-2011, 11:24 AM | #154 |
Lieutenant
44
Rep 583
Posts |
I have to applaud you DLSJ5. You have done a ton for the community by being a guiney pig and pushing the limits. Its unfortunate that your motor let go but you have been mature and informative about this just like you have been in the "which supercharger is better."
I have had motors blow in other cars when pushing the limit, and it was super discouraging. It made me want to give up on the car and move to something else. In some cases I did, and I have regreted not completing the original goals to a certain extend. I encourage you to stick with the M especially since you seem to love the car so much. I have been on the verge of going to the p-car world so many times but have somehow been able to stick with it. Anyways thanks for keeping us posted and being such a good sport! Goodluck with the rebuild! |
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|