DSC off warning

[freeman727]

I turned my DSC off to test the launch function and forgot to turn it back on. I went to do a simple U turn and spun a 180! Good thing no fast on coming cars!!

[m0da]

I do 180s when I make U turns as well.

Not sure if troll or...

Either way, great message: DSC is your friend.

[bnombe]

Originally Posted by m0da

I do 180s when I make U turns as well.

Not sure if troll or...

Either way, great message: DSC is your friend.

good response! Maybe he meant he did a 360 then

[bsiciliano]

I usually do 540s, but admittedly I'm a show off.

[Jaypod]

Originally Posted by bsiciliano

I usually do 540s, but admittedly I'm a show off.

I do that with DSC on.....

[M Pulse]

What's the point of this thread???

By the way... I had chicken for dinner tonight... I just wanted to share that with everyone in case anyone was interested!!!

[M3Denver]

Originally Posted by bsiciliano

I usually do 540s, but admittedly I'm a show off.

Ya but you drive a skateboard

[freeman727]

Originally Posted by bnombe

good response! Maybe he meant he did a 360 then

Yes, 360 sorry. Being a noob I wanted to share my experience. Never had this happen with my Mini with the DSC off.

[ThunderMoose]

How often is DSC intervening for you normally? I can't say that its ever come on for me during daily driving.

[Talk2meg00se]

The whole "DSC is a must" thing is a myth perpetuated by BMW dealerships and ZCP homers everywhere. After all, the appeal of M button / iDrive (is that how it works?) is predicated on "DSC off" being untenable / too dangerous.

I drive with DSC off all of the time, including a full day at Lime Rock Park - my first time tracking w/o nary even a slight misstep of the back end - and I wasn't exactly driving like a choir boy.

I hate to say it, but the car is at its best when all of that shit is turned off. Anyone who proclaims that "DSC off" = "the sky is falling" most likely works for BMW and is trying to ensure that comp package upsell.

[rjd598]

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[bimmerjph]

Originally Posted by m0da

I do 180s when I make U turns as well.

Not sure if troll or...

Either way, great message: DSC is your friend.

I don't know about you but I do 180s when going straight.

[tibra1]

Constructive thread..

[Peahi]

Originally Posted by freeman727

I turned my DSC off to test the launch function and forgot to turn it back on. I went to do a simple U turn and spun a 180! Good thing no fast on coming cars!!

How did you survive before stability control in cars? How are you alive, before you came upon the M3? Good thing we have torque anemic car or we would have all twirled into a ditch on the first drive. LOL, JK man!

[bnombe]

Originally Posted by Talk2meg00se

The whole "DSC is a must" thing is a myth perpetuated by BMW dealerships and ZCP homers everywhere. After all, the appeal of M button / iDrive (is that how it works?) is predicated on "DSC off" being untenable / too dangerous.

I drive with DSC off all of the time, including a full day at Lime Rock Park - my first time tracking w/o nary even a slight misstep of the back end - and I wasn't exactly driving like a choir boy.

I hate to say it, but the car is at its best when all of that shit is turned off. Anyone who proclaims that "DSC off" = "the sky is falling" most likely works for BMW and is trying to ensure that comp package upsell.

I think u meant the MDM program of DSC on cars with ZCP.

I agree with you that it's mostly marketing / sales reasons to push MDM as a must have to sell ZCP. TBH though my dealer didn't push that on me nor they needed to coz I bought ZCP mostly for the look of that 19" rim plus the slightly lowered stance right from factory

Back to the stupid misconception that DSC off is "too dangerous". If the car is so naturally deadly, why is there even a DSC off button on even non-ZCP car to begin with, right? Also that would mean M did a messed-up job engineering the handling?!

In the end, there's no substitute for the driver's being responsible and aware of the car's dynamics and limits and most importantly, the driver's own limit and how to actually control the freaking car. Car balancing (weight transfer), throttle input, brake, steering input controls are what driving a performance car should be about; not to rely on the electronic nanny while just smashing the throttle.

[InterJon]

Originally Posted by freeman727

I turned my DSC off to test the launch function and forgot to turn it back on. I went to do a simple U turn and spun a 180! Good thing no fast on coming cars!!

/troll. In any event, roll tide. Big 10 is a joke.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by freeman727

Yes, 360 sorry. Being a noob I wanted to share my experience. Never had this happen with my Mini with the DSC off.

Do you know the difference between front wheel drive and rear wheel drive? The Mini is front wheel drive and the BMWs are rear wheel drive. Of course the car handles and drives differently.

[freeman727]

Originally Posted by Z K

Do you know the difference between front wheel drive and rear wheel drive? The Mini is front wheel drive and the BMWs are rear wheel drive. Of course the car handles and drives differently.

Yes I had a 330i zhp before. I'm no track whore like most of you people who comment. I stand for the common man but I do intend to do hdpe's to get better. So all you snotty nose in the air arrogant folks can keep your barbs to yourselves!

[LarThaL]

Originally Posted by Talk2meg00se

The whole "DSC is a must" thing is a myth perpetuated by BMW dealerships and ZCP homers everywhere. After all, the appeal of M button / iDrive (is that how it works?) is predicated on "DSC off" being untenable / too dangerous.

I drive with DSC off all of the time, including a full day at Lime Rock Park - my first time tracking w/o nary even a slight misstep of the back end - and I wasn't exactly driving like a choir boy.

I hate to say it, but the car is at its best when all of that shit is turned off. Anyone who proclaims that "DSC off" = "the sky is falling" most likely works for BMW and is trying to ensure that comp package upsell.

Agree and disagree.....

I completely agree that "the car is at its best when all of that shit is turned off". However, on the street, a RWD car with this much power can definitely bite you unexpectedly. A wet spot on the road, bumpy pavement with a little too much throttle, etc, etc.

There was a post a while back from a guy who always drove with DSC full off and was very exerienced with the dynamics of the car like this. Still, he hit some rough pavement at a turn, was a little heavy on the gas, and slammed his rear wheel into a curb.

Over the years, cars have gotten more and more powerful. It wasn't that long ago that 414hp was true exotic car territory. It is the advances in electronic traction management that makes this kind of RWD power safer to drive on the street for non pro-drivers.

[freeman727]

Originally Posted by LarThaL

Agree and disagree.....

I completely agree that "the car is at its best when all of that shit is turned off". However, on the street, a RWD car with this much power can definitely bite you unexpectedly. A wet spot on the road, bumpy pavement with a little too much throttle, etc, etc.

There was a post a while back from a guy who always drove with DSC full off and was very exerienced with the dynamics of the car like this. Still, he hit some rough pavement at a turn, was a little heavy on the gas, and slammed his rear wheel into a curb.

Over the years, cars have gotten more and more powerful. It wasn't that long ago that 414hp was true exotic car territory. It is the advances in electronic traction management that makes this kind of RWD power safer to drive on the street for non pro-drivers.

Thank you! I must have pressed too hard on the gas pedal when I made the U.

[armyav8tor]

DSC OFF on track, DSC ON on street. Some people do it backwards. If you are getting DSC to intervene on the street then you are probably going too fast for your own good. Keep that shit on the track, but bet you'll be too scared to turn it off there. LOL

[bnombe]

Originally Posted by freeman727

Thank you! I must have pressed too hard on the gas pedal when I made the U.

D-U-H!