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I feel that way too.
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The N54 in the 1M feels much different than any other N54 vairant, including the Z4is and The 335is. It feels much more "M". It truly is an amazing little car. The purest in the BMW lineup.
With that being said, there are deffinitley two types of M3 buyers. Those who buy it for the name and those who buy it for the driving experience. I have found that it is more common that they buy it for the name, which is unfortunate. Oh, and sorry DCT guys, the majority of "enthusiasts" go for the 6MT. The DCT is more common for the "name" buyers, as they cant drive stick. The DCT is an amazing thing, and for what it is, it is great. But at the end of the day, the car is missing something. And that little thing goes under your left foot. I am a CA, so I see this stuff every day.
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06-27-2011, 12:34 PM | #72 |
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And another thing, trust me.
With the 1M, dont knock it till you try it, its a BEAST. A true modern day E30 M3
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06-27-2011, 01:10 PM | #73 |
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BMW is not going to design a completely new engine for a car with a one year production run. The 1M is a great exercise in seeing what they can do by swapping parts. A wonderful experiment so to speak.
I would suspect given the perfomance difference shown between the 1M and M3 (the 1M can be easily tuned to beat the M3 on the drag strip and on most race tracks) if they keep producing it (in the FXX bodies for example) they'll always end up using a "tuned" normal series motor so as to not surpass Big Brother. Would seem cheaper that way than building a seperate motor that will have to fit between the motor in the 1XX and the M3. Just my thought anyway... |
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06-27-2011, 01:31 PM | #74 | |
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In the current bmw lineup it is the closest you can get to an E30 M3. It feels nice and light on its feet, something that no other M car can match.
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06-27-2011, 07:44 PM | #75 |
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When someone starts by saying this, I generally don't.
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I haven't driven one but based on what I've read/watched, the 1M seems like a great buy for the money compared to other cars brand new. |
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People were not lined up at the door of the dealer to order Z4M from the start...
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I don't understand something. Automobile Magazine in the print copy of the review on page 62 lists the 0-60 for the M3 with competition package at 4.7 seconds and the 1M at 4.5. They've gotten 4.5 seconds before. I'm surprised that the M3 would post slower than the 1M.
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Either way new or used IMO it seems like the 1M will be a great car for the coin. |
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BTW, I'm just basing this on the limited quantity available and the demand which probably exceeds that quantity. Maybe you're right and the demand will suddenly die down in a year or so...who knows |
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From what I've seen, BMW usually keeps residuals low and money factors high for newly introduced cars. Same thing happened with the e9x m3 back when it went for sale in the US in spring 2008. I do agree that when the new 1 series comes out and the new 1M is announced there will be a hit in value to these cars. |
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Ironically, when the M3 came out, they were not flying off showroom floors(not anything like the E46), some previous M3 owners looking to upgrade were experiencing sticker shock as there was a significant jump in price. I got 9k knocked of MSRP and a free 1 day M Performance Driving School for myself and a friend. Yes, the Z4M was limited to 1815 but the demand was not there. The 1M is different. It has 1/2 the supply and serious demand. It has mass appeal, it's far more practical and if you don't understand simple supply and demand and how it affects the market value of a car I don't know what to tell you.
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