Very Impressed with Pagid Yellow Racing Pads

Gearhead999s · 03-22-2012, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kitw

I've found the yellows to last FOREVER at the expense of rotor life. Watch your rotors. On a BBK, it might not matter as much, but they chewed through my stock E46 M3 rotors like no tomorrow.

Really?I used RS19's with stock brakes on my 08 and never went though any rotors after 55000 kms & at least 30 track days.With my Stoptech BBK and Pagid RS14/29 setup I am seeing very little rotor wear as well even on the street.

chili cheese · 03-22-2012, 07:49 PM

I've got a dozen events on the stock calipers/rotors running RS19 Yellows all around. No excessive rotor wear, pads work great!

Sleeper519 · 03-22-2012, 08:53 PM

I was under the impression that the Pagids were fairly rotor-friendly when used on the track with a lot of heat, but that driving them around town mostly cold would really chew up the rotors.

I've had both the RS19s on stock calipers and the RS29s on StopTech BBK without problems but i change them out for track events, so who knows...

klammer · 03-22-2012, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shizzle

I ran RS19 on my OEM brakes, and absolutely loved them - absolutely no fade no matter how much braking I did. They were noisy as hell though, I actually had a dump truck driver pull up to me and tell me how noisy my brakes were. On the street, they were super noisy, and was never able to get them to quiet down. On the track, it would take a few hot laps before the squealing went down.

I'm putting RS29 on my Alcon BBK next week, and i'm hoping the noise goes down - it seems that most people with a BBK and the Pagids experience less noise.

Ran the RS29's last year and will run them this year as well. Really liked them. They did squeal on the street but were more high pitched but not super loud IMO. Did go through a set of rotors last year (22 track days about 5k street miles), but thought the pagids were friendlier than the carbotechs on the rotors which were the 2 pads I used last year. Will pay closer attention to these details this year.

sawzall · 03-28-2012, 04:56 PM

I just threw in my set of RS29. I'm shocked to say they're almost completely silent! I drove on them pretty much all day today in downtown traffic and 15C weather, and they didn't make a noise. Looking at how they fit in the caliper, it seems like these pads fit more snug than the pads in the OEM calipers, and so there is probably less pad vibration.

Can't wait to give these a go on the track this Sunday!

aus · 03-28-2012, 05:40 PM

Richard, how do they compare to the StopTech pads you seem to like? I believe the ST pads are more of a street pad, but can be used on the track.

JAJ · 03-28-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shizzle

I just threw in my set of RS29. I'm shocked to say they're almost completely silent! I drove on them pretty much all day today in downtown traffic and 15C weather, and they didn't make a noise. Looking at how they fit in the caliper, it seems like these pads fit more snug than the pads in the OEM calipers, and so there is much less pad vibration.

Can't wait to give these a go on the track this Sunday!

The RS19's and RS29's seem to be quiet when they're in a multi-piston caliper. I had them in my Brembo's last year and they were quiet. In the OEM single piston calipers though, you get noise.

STALKER · 03-28-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JAJ

The RS19's and RS29's seem to be quiet when they're in a multi-piston caliper. I had them in my Brembo's last year and they were quiet. In the OEM single piston calipers though, you get noise.

That's exactly what I have observed. I have been daily driving my RS29s for a week now, completely silent.

THE TECH · 03-29-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

That's exactly what I have observed. I have been daily driving my RS29s for a week now, completely silent.

+1

klammer · 03-29-2012, 09:54 AM

Mine started silent but got louder as the track days piled up. Not sure if it's because they need constant re-bedding or what, but they did get louder after about a month. Putting em back in 2 weeks so will see. Summer here we come!!!

STALKER · 03-29-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by klammer

Mine started silent but got louder as the track days piled up. Not sure if it's because they need constant re-bedding or what, but they did get louder after about a month. Putting em back in 2 weeks so will see. Summer here we come!!!

I think anytime you run a track pad, re-bedding them every now and then is a good choice if you leave them in.

I find the initial bite sometimes a bit much in stop and go traffic.

dawgdog · 03-29-2012, 04:12 PM

I've just had mine on for three weeks and they started out silent then got loud and now are better again. I do think they need to be bedded in periodically. I've had two track events so far and the wear is much less than on my Mintex F3Rs.

Bubbles · 03-30-2012, 07:05 AM

Great pad! Fantastic bite and fully operational after nearly forty minutes of 130+mph to 55-60mph brake zones. My pads are nearly completely white but with plenty of meat left. Very impressed. Of course moving to a BBK helped as well.

M3-Mike · 04-02-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shizzle

I just threw in my set of RS29. I'm shocked to say they're almost completely silent! I drove on them pretty much all day today in downtown traffic and 15C weather, and they didn't make a noise. Looking at how they fit in the caliper, it seems like these pads fit more snug than the pads in the OEM calipers, and so there is probably less pad vibration.

Are you using the RS29 with stock calipers and discs? I'm still interested in upgraded pads if I can find something that won't be too noisy for street driving...

consolidated · 04-02-2012, 01:47 PM

Pagids are good, raced on them for three seasons, but run PFC01/06 now on my racecar. Pagids give a softer, longer pedal and prone to slight fading after 50% of pad life. I never raced on pads with less than 50% wear left. PFC will bite and be consistent nearly to the backing plate. This is racing, with enduros, may not be an issue with DE or TT.

STALKER · 04-02-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by M3-Mike

Are you using the RS29 with stock calipers and discs? I'm still interested in upgraded pads if I can find something that won't be too noisy for street driving...

Alcon BBK.

sawzall · 04-02-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by M3-Mike

Are you using the RS29 with stock calipers and discs? I'm still interested in upgraded pads if I can find something that won't be too noisy for street driving...

As STALKER mentioned, i'm running the RS29 in my Alcon BBK.

I have a set of Pagid RS19 for the OEM calipers (i've actually got them on sale here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=593721), they are amazing on the track, but they squeal like crazy.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 04-02-2012, 09:18 PM

are they loud?

rod1 · 04-03-2012, 11:01 AM

I've been running them on the streets the past 2 days. They are really loud.

1MOREMOD · 04-03-2012, 11:16 AM

i thought that low wear rates of the pad just meant high rotor wear and vs versa. one or the other has to suffer doesnt it?

STALKER · 04-03-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chriszeh

i thought that low wear rates of the pad just meant high rotor wear and vs versa. one or the other has to suffer doesnt it?

They last a long time and are easy on rotors, they are enduro pads.

TX335 · 04-03-2012, 01:57 PM

What are the differences between the RS19 and RS29? I've read a little bit, and it seems that the RS29 have a slightly higher initial bite.

03-22-2012, 07:49 PM	#24
chili cheese Major 101 Rep 1,086 Posts Drives: '16 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern CA iTrader: (6)	I've got a dozen events on the stock calipers/rotors running RS19 Yellows all around. No excessive rotor wear, pads work great!
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03-22-2012, 08:53 PM	#25
Sleeper519 Captain 68 Rep 869 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I was under the impression that the Pagids were fairly rotor-friendly when used on the track with a lot of heat, but that driving them around town mostly cold would really chew up the rotors. I've had both the RS19s on stock calipers and the RS29s on StopTech BBK without problems but i change them out for track events, so who knows... __________________ 2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.70 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
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03-28-2012, 04:56 PM	#27
sawzall Major 50 Rep 1,285 Posts Drives: A Car Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 911S [10.00] 2011 911 GT3 RS [0.00]	I just threw in my set of RS29. I'm shocked to say they're almost completely silent! I drove on them pretty much all day today in downtown traffic and 15C weather, and they didn't make a noise. Looking at how they fit in the caliper, it seems like these pads fit more snug than the pads in the OEM calipers, and so there is probably less pad vibration. Can't wait to give these a go on the track this Sunday! Last edited by sawzall; 03-28-2012 at 06:23 PM..
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03-28-2012, 05:40 PM	#28
aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Richard, how do they compare to the StopTech pads you seem to like? I believe the ST pads are more of a street pad, but can be used on the track. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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03-29-2012, 09:54 AM	#32
klammer Brigadier General 97 Rep 3,246 Posts Drives: 11 spc gry m3 e90, 19 X5 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: chicago iTrader: (0)	Mine started silent but got louder as the track days piled up. Not sure if it's because they need constant re-bedding or what, but they did get louder after about a month. Putting em back in 2 weeks so will see. Summer here we come!!! __________________ mods: track ready stuff
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03-29-2012, 04:12 PM	#34
dawgdog Colonel 148 Rep 2,278 Posts Drives: 2015 M3, 2016 GT3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. iTrader: (0)	I've just had mine on for three weeks and they started out silent then got loud and now are better again. I do think they need to be bedded in periodically. I've had two track events so far and the wear is much less than on my Mintex F3Rs. __________________ 2015 f80 M3, 2016 GT3
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03-30-2012, 07:05 AM	#35
Bubbles Brigadier General 2753 Rep 4,445 Posts Drives: Green Bastard Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend iTrader: (3)	Great pad! Fantastic bite and fully operational after nearly forty minutes of 130+mph to 55-60mph brake zones. My pads are nearly completely white but with plenty of meat left. Very impressed. Of course moving to a BBK helped as well. __________________
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04-02-2012, 01:47 PM	#37
consolidated Lieutenant Colonel 205 Rep 1,864 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 Porsche GT4 [0.00] 1999 Porsche Spec B ... [0.00] 2014 Ram 1500 Laram ... [0.00] 2007 Porsche GT3 RS [10.00] 2013 Tesla Model S 85 [0.00]	Pagids are good, raced on them for three seasons, but run PFC01/06 now on my racecar. Pagids give a softer, longer pedal and prone to slight fading after 50% of pad life. I never raced on pads with less than 50% wear left. PFC will bite and be consistent nearly to the backing plate. This is racing, with enduros, may not be an issue with DE or TT. __________________ F80 M3 / Mineral Grey-Silverstone / CCB
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04-02-2012, 09:18 PM	#40
Eugene-TAIWAN Brigadier General 249 Rep 3,157 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan iTrader: (4)	are they loud? __________________ Past: Gintani stage3 M3, Cayman GTS present: Porsche 993RWB, 964RS America,996 cupcar, 964 turbo 3.6,Macan Turbo,997GT2,930 turbo,i3, MINI JCW
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04-03-2012, 11:01 AM	#41
rod1 Private 8 Rep 91 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	I've been running them on the streets the past 2 days. They are really loud.
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04-03-2012, 11:16 AM	#42
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	i thought that low wear rates of the pad just meant high rotor wear and vs versa. one or the other has to suffer doesnt it? __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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04-03-2012, 01:57 PM	#44
TX335 Private First Class 3 Rep 156 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW iTrader: (0)	What are the differences between the RS19 and RS29? I've read a little bit, and it seems that the RS29 have a slightly higher initial bite.
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