E93 Convertible Fans - 2 Reviews

[Wads]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Nice job Wads. It's no easy task to match magazine results in 0-60 run. What did you measure with?

What I'd really love to see: a four way test with E92 M-DCT, E92 6MT, E93 M-DCT and E93 6MT. This would give a great picture of how the body style (weight) and transmission both effect the acceleration. Of course track times would also be part of such a test, and provided the track has sufficient turns, there I would fully suspect the E92 to be the clear winner regardless of which transmission is equipped.

I use the Racelogic Performance Box which is also the same gear used by most UK car magazines (such as EVO and Autocar)..... todays times were with the top down and without using launch control (I've only got 1000 miles on the clock so its not available yet)....

[Wads]

The 0-100 time is particularly good compared to the RS4 Cab I tested a while ago (same track and similar conditions).... the M3 being a full 4 seconds quicker:

[Powerslide]

Originally Posted by Wads

I use the Racelogic Performance Box which is also the same gear used by most UK car magazines (such as EVO and Autocar)..... todays times were with the top down and without using launch control (I've only got 1000 miles on the clock so its not available yet)....

Did you use S5 or S6 (without launch control)? If you used S5, did you completely disable DSC, or did you use MDM mode? Sorry to ask so many questions, and I'm not sure it matters, but what power or throttle setting did you use? Nice job by the way - those are some damn impressive numbers for the E93!! And I agree that a good launch from an MDCT equipped E93 will out-accelerate a lot of 6MT E90/E92 drivers whose shifting techniques are not almost perfectly timed. (Before you coupe/sedan or 6MT people flame me - let me clarify - that would be purely the result of the driver, as assuming properly timed and executed shifting technique, a 6MT E90/E92 should definitely out-accelerate an MDCT E93 by a few tenths of a second)...

[Wads]

Originally Posted by Powerslide

Did you use S5 or S6 (without launch control)? If you used S5, did you completely disable DSC, or did you use MDM mode? Sorry to ask so many questions, and I'm not sure it matters, but what power or throttle setting did you use? Nice job by the way - those are some damn impressive numbers for the E93!! And I agree that a good launch from an MDCT equipped E93 will out-accelerate a lot of 6MT E90/E92 drivers whose shifting techniques are not almost perfectly timed. (Before you coupe/sedan or 6MT people flame me - let me clarify - that would be purely the result of the driver, as assuming properly timed and executed shifting technique, a 6MT E90/E92 should definitely out-accelerate an MDCT E93 by a few tenths of a second)...

I did several runs in each direction..... all in D5 Sport Plus and MDM (so the only skill involved from the driver was slamming my foot to the floor and keeping the car on the road....)

I got several 4.4/4.5sec runs with the 4.3 as the best. Looking at the data this evening the 1ft rollout reduces the time by around 0.2 so the true 0-60 (ie. not a US magazine test or drag strip time) is 4.57sec..... still much better than I expected!

[watrob]

Originally Posted by Wads

I did several runs in each direction..... all in D5 Sport Plus and MDM (so the only skill involved from the driver was slamming my foot to the floor and keeping the car on the road....)

I got several 4.4/4.5sec runs with the 4.3 as the best. Looking at the data this evening the 1ft rollout reduces the time by around 0.2 so the true 0-60 (ie. not a US magazine test or drag strip time) is 4.57sec..... still much better than I expected!

Man, that makes me happy, the vert is not as slow as one thought, anything under 5sec is damn quick!

[Powerslide]

Originally Posted by Wads

I did several runs in each direction..... all in D5 Sport Plus and MDM (so the only skill involved from the driver was slamming my foot to the floor and keeping the car on the road....)

I got several 4.4/4.5sec runs with the 4.3 as the best. Looking at the data this evening the 1ft rollout reduces the time by around 0.2 so the true 0-60 (ie. not a US magazine test or drag strip time) is 4.57sec..... still much better than I expected!

Good to know - I guess the nice thing about D5 vs. S5 or S6 without launch control is that the computer will automatically shift right at redline - something that can be botched in S5 or S6 without perfect timing...

[mastershan]

It's 2013. I looooove my E93. Just sayin...

[Prince_of_Persia]

Originally Posted by Wads

For those that still think the E93 M3 can't handle the track the following is the top 50 times tested on the Autozietung track...... the full list (of which the E93 M3 is 27th out of 446) is here: http://www.fastestlaps.com/track24.html

Take a look at some of the cars that are slower..... and as far as I can see the only faster 4 seat convertible is the 997 Turbo

1. Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 1:33.6 ´07 530 / 1520 Autozeitung
2. Porsche 997 GT3 RS 1:35.0 ´06 415 / 1375 Autozeitung
3. Lamborghini Gallardo 1:35.6 ´03 500 / 1613 Autozeitung
4. Porsche 997 GT2 1:37.0 ´07 537 / 1440 Autozeitung
5. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 1:37.1 ´06 640 / 1805 Autozeitung
6. Porsche 997 Turbo Cabriolet 1:38.0 ´07 480 / 1655 Autozeitung
7. Porsche 997 Turbo 1:38.1 ´06 480 / 1585 Autozeitung
8. Ferrari F430 1:38.1 ´05 489 / 1450 Autozeitung
9. Porsche 996 Turbo S 1:38.5 ´04 450 / 1540 Autozeitung
10. BMW M3 Sedan (E90) 1:38.7 ´07 420 / 1646 Autozeitung
11. Ferrari 575 Maranello 1:38.8 ´02 540 / 1730 Autozeitung
12. Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 1:39.0 ´06 520 / 1748 Autozeitung
13. Porsche 997 Carrera S (2008 facelift) 1:39.1 ´08 385 / 1425 Autozeitung
14. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:39.4 ´05 513 / 1437.3 Autozeitung
15. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 1:39.6 ´06 517 / 1960 autozeitung
16. Porsche 997 Carrera S 1:39.8 ´04 355 / 1420 Autozeitung
17. Audi R8 1:39.8 ´06 420 / 1560 Autozeitung
18. Dodge Viper SRT-10 1:39.9 ´05 506 / 1600 Autozeitung
19. BMW M6 1:40.0 ´05 507 / 1710 Autozeitung
20. Mercedes C 63 AMG 1:40.0 ´07 457 / 1772 Autozeitung
21. BMW M3 (E92) 1:40.1 ´07 420 / 1619 Autozeitung
22. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG Black Series 1:40.6 ´06 400 / 1506 Autozeitung
23. Porsche 997 Carrera 1:40.8 ´04 325 / 1395 Autozeitung
24. Wiesmann GT MF4 1:40.9 ´05 367 / 1240 Autozeitung
25. Porsche Cayman S 1:41.2 ´05 295 / 1416 Autozeitung
26. Audi RS4 (B7) 1:41.3 ´05 420 / 1720 Autozeitung
27. BMW M3 Cabrio (E93) 1:41.9 ´08 420 / 1885 Autozeitung
28. Porsche 996 Carrera 320hp 1:42.2 ´01 320 / 1345 Autozeitung
29. Porsche 987 Boxster S (276bhp) 1:42.3 ´05 280 / 1345 Autozeitung
30. Maserati GranTurismo S 1:42.3 ´08 439 / 1880 Autozeitung
31. Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster 1:42.4 ´07 385 / 1726 Autozeitung
32. Mercedes SLK 55 AMG 1:42.7 ´06 360 / 1495 Autozeitung
33. BMW Z4 M Roadster 1:42.8 ´06 343 / 1444 Autozeitung
34. Bentley Continental GT 1:42.8 ´03 559 / 2350 Autozeitung
35. Mercedes CL 65 AMG 1:42.8 ´04 612 / 2055 Autozeitung
36. Porsche Cayenne Turbo S (MkII) 1:42.8 ´08 550 / 2355 Autozeitung
37. Maserati Coupe GranSport 1:43.1 ´04 400 / 1680 Autozeitung
38. Jaguar XKR 1:43.1 ´06 420 / 1776 Autozeitung
39. BMW M5 (E60) 1:43.2 ´05 507 / 1848 Autozeitung
40. BMW M6 Cabrio 1:43.3 ´07 507 / 1930 Autozeitung
41. Aston Martin V8 Vantage (420bhp) 1:43.3 ´08 426 / 1630 Autozeitung
42. Porsche 997 Carrera 4S 1:43.5 ´07 355 / 1550 Autozeitung
43. Mercedes SL 63 AMG 1:43.5 ´08 525 / 1895 Autozeitung
44. Maserati GranTurismo 1:43.6 ´07 405 / 1880 Autozeitung
45. Aston Martin DBS 1:43.6 ´07 517 / 1695 Autozeitung
46. BMW 645ci Coupe 1:43.8 ´04 333 / 1707 Autozeitung
47. Jaguar XKR convertible 1:43.8 ´ 416 / 1710 Autozeitung
48. BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe 1:43.9 ´06 265 / 1408 Autozeitung
49. Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Cabriolet 1:43.9 ´07 481 / 1800 Autozeitung
50. Mercedes CL 600 1:43.9 ´ 517 / 2110 autozeitung

Wow, look at #10!

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by Wads

For those that still think the E93 M3 can't handle the track the following is the top 50 times tested on the Autozietung track...... the full list (of which the E93 M3 is 27th out of 446) is here: http://www.fastestlaps.com/track24.html

I like the list ... thanks for sharing ... however, I like to see only the Bimmers

10. BMW M3 Sedan (E90) 1:38.7 ´07 420 / 1646 Autozeitung
19. BMW M6 1:40.0 ´05 507 / 1710 Autozeitung
21. BMW M3 (E92) 1:40.1 ´07 420 / 1619 Autozeitung
27. BMW M3 Cabrio (E93) 1:41.9[/B] ´08 420 / 1885 Autozeitung
33. BMW Z4 M Roadster 1:42.8 ´06 343 / 1444 Autozeitung
40. BMW M6 Cabrio 1:43.3 ´07 507 / 1930 Autozeitung
46. BMW 645ci Coupe 1:43.8 ´04 333 / 1707 Autozeitung
48. BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe 1:43.9 ´06 265 / 1408 Autozeitung

[SWOT1]

Lovin’ these E93 M3 results! Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to posting my own sub 5 sec. results!

[ZooMMM]

Hurrah!

[PurM3]

Wonder why the sedan is much faster than the coupe