M3 vs ISF and the S5

[midwesterner]

Originally Posted by ///M Pow3r

Fake exhaust tips on anything = fail. I don't care what make/model it is. On a 7 series it's not as big a deal since it's not a performance car, but it's still lame.

I agree, the fake exhaust tips bother me as well, but all the guys drivin 911's think that the M3's side vents and hood buldge are lame since they are only for asthetic purposes.......

[spearfisher]

Originally Posted by ///M Pow3r

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while I don't like the fake tail pipes either,

there is a better way of proving your point

[Nawaaz]

Honestly, the fake exhaust tips aren't that big of a deal. I admire the fact that Lexus was creative, and the stacked exhaust tips look good in person.

I know Lexus didn't get it all perfect the first time, but they'll come back hard with their next version I bet.

[Trier Germany]

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by sayemthree

i think Is-F would be about last on my list

1 - M3
2 - RS5
3 - AMG63
4 - G37 S
5 - 335i
6 - 550i
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100 - IS-F

I'm not a lexus guy but damn bro this has GOT to be a joke post.

G37S and 550i over the F? Are you kidding me?

335i with jb3 I can see an argument for, although some might say it's better to have the N/A of the F versus a twin turbo set up + additional tuning


G37S does not belong in that discussion to be honest, it's disgustingly slower than the F


The F is probably tied for 4th on that list with the 335i.


edit: and g37s over 335i, really???

[warzilla]

Originally Posted by footie

jimmy13,

It's surprising that some reviews have placed the S5 ahead of the M3 when compared, not an opinion I spare as I know the M3 is better but shows that things are closer than some clearly think, yourself included because in your eyes the two aren't even in the same ball park which is definitely wrong.

What review is that? Most I read gives all the nod to the m3. And yes, I've driven the s5 myself.

This is the typical review I see on the head to heads:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=125265

Notice the title of the review:
On Paper, It Seems Like a Fair Fight

[niqui]

i think the isf is a better peformance car than the s5, am i alone?
yes, i ve driven it
and i hate lexus

[major_kusanagi]

well said.

Originally Posted by spearfisher

while I don't like the fake tail pipes either,

there is a better way of proving your point

[jaeS4]

Just like the IS-F's exhaust tips, and this one is a real sports car. It's just funny how people got on the IS-F but never said anything about the Murcielago, R8, Veyron, California, and the new BMW 750. Are all those cars going to be called "Rice", i think not.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by jaeS4

Just like the IS-F's exhaust tips, and this one is a real sports car. It's just funny how people got on the IS-F but never said anything about the Murcielago, R8, Veyron, California, and the new BMW 750. Are all those cars going to be called "Rice", i think not.

1) I think it's because all the said vehicles with fake exhaust tips actually have tips that line up with the tailpipes. I dunno, it doesn't make sense.

2) I can't get over how balls ugly that Cali is from the rear.

[OneHump]

Hey guys. I had to register just to respond to this thread. I am most likely one of the first 10 owners of the 2G IS 350 in the country, and have 80,000 miles on mine. I think it's ludicrous for anyone to say that it's not a fantastic car.

Apples to apples, I think the ISF is also a fantastic car. When I drove it, however, I didn't feel like it had that much more than my IS 350.

I stopped by and test drove an M3 yesterday as I continue my search for a new car, and ended up walking out with one. It is very clear that the M3 is an amazing car, but that doesn't take away from what Lexus has done.

There are several things missing in the M3 that Lexus has. There are also several things the M3 does that Lexus can't do. The bottom line is that they're both fantastic cars and you really can't go wrong with either.

Now, please excuse me while I go and look for the backup camera on my new M3.

[PorscheRacer]

I was very interested in the IS-F....until I drove it. The ride is too horrible to believe. It is the worst riding car I've ever driven. I think they forgot to put shocks and springs in the suspension - it is that harsh. The M3, particularly with adjustable suspension, manages better handling with a compliant ride. There were other things I like better about the M3 and some I like better about the Lexus but there is no way I could live on a daily basis with the IS-F ride quality.

[jaeS4]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

1) I think it's because all the said vehicles with fake exhaust tips actually have tips that line up with the tailpipes. I dunno, it doesn't make sense.

2) I can't get over how balls ugly that Cali is from the rear.

So does the IS-F. The Autospies photo is a prototype, the actual production car tailpipes goes in the tip just like the other cars that i mentioned.

[amgthis]

G37S over a 550i and IS-F?

WAT

[PowerLex]

Originally Posted by PorscheRacer

I was very interested in the IS-F....until I drove it. The ride is too horrible to believe. It is the worst riding car I've ever driven. I think they forgot to put shocks and springs in the suspension - it is that harsh. The M3, particularly with adjustable suspension, manages better handling with a compliant ride. There were other things I like better about the M3 and some I like better about the Lexus but there is no way I could live on a daily basis with the IS-F ride quality.

The ISF suspension is not bad at all. Yes, it is track inspired, but not horrible for street use. I actually have coils but the stock suspension is a great setup out of the box. That is just another reason you pay more $$$ for an M3, EDC.