BMWNA's Larry Koch answers why no M3 GTS for U.S. and speaks about ZCP Competition M3

bavarian19 · 02-03-2010, 08:19 PM

I guess that is understandable

e46e92love · 02-04-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MI6

What's more surprising to me is no HP bump for the 011's. With the overboost on the 335is up to 360-370 I'm disappointed the M3 didn't get a little bump as well.......

The overboost function affects torque only, not HP. Yes, I know, we could argue all day about the engineering principles behind where you get Tq from, and HP is part of the equation, as well as torque to the wheels equation, but lets leave that for another thread.

I have Dinan Stage I, and I push 366/379 and I won't even try to play with an //M3, I know better, and have helped a few other //M3 owners realize how much faster there car is than mine (with some real world "playing"

), its no comparison. If I had the money I would have ordered an //M two years ago, but I didn't (notice didn't, now I do, and I although I love my car, I can't wait to get out of it and into an //M).

Sorry for the slightly OT rant

Cheers,
e46e92

MN M3 · 02-04-2010, 12:41 PM

Is it any surprise that BMW made a BUSINESS decision not to bring the GTS into the States? The reality is that (a) the car would have to be priced well above $150k thanks to the collapse of the dollar against world currencies, and (b) the car is not built to US-DOT requirements and would require a number of modifications to be made legal, costing millions in engineering and testing, thereby further raising the sales price to cover these costs. Given the state of the US economy, this is a no-brainer. If someone REALLY wants a GTS and has the coin to purchase one, then they will go to Europe, purchase it there, and work to import it into the US and pay for the "conversion" when it arrives on our shores.

It's like the Performance Seats that everyone complains about - they aren't US-legal seats. It is illegal to install them in a road-registered car. Some people have, but they've only done so through third-party vendors, not a BMW dealership. The dealerships are barred from installing the equipment, and very, if any, others would do it given the liability involved.

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