How to Permanently Disable M3 Automatic Start/Stop

PeterK · 02-03-2011, 05:54 AM

I have a three week old 2010 M3 with the automatic start/stop function. The default is that it is always on.

Most annoying.

Anybody know how to permanently turn it off?

Thanks.

jonasaurus · 02-03-2011, 06:06 AM

+1

alpina527 · 02-03-2011, 07:41 AM

+2 and does anyone know how to change the default DCT setting without using the M button?

joelk · 02-03-2011, 07:44 AM

Just curious, is there a delay when you pull away from a dead stop? What are the tangible annoying issues with this feature? We don't get this option in the states so I'm curious to know why some people dislike it so.

Technic · 02-03-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joelk

Just curious, is there a delay when you pull away from a dead stop? What are the tangible annoying issues with this feature? We don't get this option in the states so I'm curious to know why some people dislike it so.

Sorry to tell you but Auto Start/Stop is standard the US M3 as well since last September production...

joelk · 02-03-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Sorry to tell you but Auto Start/Stop is standard the US M3 as well since last September production...

d'oh! even on the 6MT?

edit: i see from research that yes this is on the 6mt too.

okay well not to thread jack but what is tangibly annoying about it? thnx

mr_yogi · 02-03-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joelk

d'oh! even on the 6MT?

edit: i see from research that yes this is on the 6mt too.

okay well not to thread jack but what is tangibly annoying about it? thnx

I believe so...

///My5UV · 02-03-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Sorry to tell you but Auto Start/Stop is standard the US M3 as well since last September production...

I thought it was off by default in the US?

I'm guessing that some of the performance tuners have this covered either way, or you could hook up a delay relay to simulate a button press after the engine starts. Does the M button turn off start/stop? That would make sense to me and I'm already used to pushing a few buttons when starting up my current cars to get rid of the nav nag screen, disable DSC/ASC, and lately... turn on the seat heaters!

PKL · 02-03-2011, 08:00 AM

I am hoping that it is OFF by default in USA, but would ALSO LOVE to know a way to PERMANENTLY DISABLE.

What a STUPID f$&king feature.

joelk · 02-03-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

What a STUPID f$&king feature.

Have you driven a car w/ the feature enabled? What specifically about the feature was a detriment to your normal driving style?

///My5UV · 02-03-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

I am hoping that it is OFF by default in USA, but would ALSO LOVE to know a way to PERMANENTLY DISABLE.

If it's off by default and no extra cost, why would you care? Then it's no more intrusive than auto headlights, rain sensing wipers, or anything else that's off by default.

montreal red · 02-03-2011, 08:25 AM

a stupid feature indeed. no one buys an m3 thinking its going to get good fuel economy because of this added feature.

Georgeair · 02-03-2011, 08:36 AM

It's annoying on a rental Camry. It would be mind-bendingly frustrating on an M3.

PKL · 02-03-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by joelk

Have you driven a car w/ the feature enabled? What specifically about the feature was a detriment to your normal driving style?

I don't need to, I just hate the idea.

Can you remind me how much gas or emissions this is reported to save?

And if it's annoying on a Camry...

///My5UV · 02-03-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

I don't need to, I just hate the idea.
Can you remind me how much gas or emissions this is reported to save?

Depends on how much time you spend idling at a stop.
1 to 2 liters per hour generally. Not a big deal here but in places where gas is alot more expensive it's more popular to shut off the engine if you're going to be stopped for a minute or two. I'd like to hear how popular it is when temps reach 100F.

joelk · 02-03-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Georgeair

It's annoying on a rental Camry. It would be mind-bendingly frustrating on an M3.

what was annoying about it? did it take noticeable time for the engine to pop back on?

i'm not trying to be annoying here...i'm just trying to understand the downside.

jonasaurus · 02-03-2011, 09:00 AM

It defaults to 'Off' in the US, but for the UK its defaults 'On'. Pressumably this is the same for Australia its defaulting 'On'.

Kyoshi71 · 02-03-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterK

I have a three week old 2010 M3 with the automatic start/stop function. The default is that it is always on.

Most annoying.

Anybody know how to permanently turn it off?

Thanks.

Your title is a statement not a question. I was looking forward to learning something.

aznclickster · 02-03-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

Your title is a statement not a question. I was looking forward to learning something.

This.

my car has it "Off" by default

BimmerM · 02-03-2011, 09:38 AM

That's correct for US cars, it's off by default. If the US cars can be off by default I'm sure a tuner can code your cars to be off by default as well.

Z06M3 · 02-03-2011, 09:59 AM

What's mind boggling to me is why we are still charged the $1300 guzzler tax. Should have had the option to have this feature and save on that tax or pay the tax and keep this feature off. Just another thing to worry about breaking down now.

Gkap · 02-03-2011, 10:10 AM

maybe it is differentin Australia.
but most places the auto start stop button is off unless
you choose to turn it on.

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joelk Lieutenant Colonel 37 Rep 1,680 Posts Drives: Space Gray E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	Just curious, is there a delay when you pull away from a dead stop? What are the tangible annoying issues with this feature? We don't get this option in the states so I'm curious to know why some people dislike it so. __________________ e90 M3, Space Gray / Extended Black, ZCP, ZCV, ZP2, DCT sold: 2008 BS 135i 6MT
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jonasaurus Brigadier General 76 Rep 3,178 Posts Drives: E90 M3 [Sold] Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	It defaults to 'Off' in the US, but for the UK its defaults 'On'. Pressumably this is the same for Australia its defaulting 'On'. __________________ ///M3 \| E90 LCI \| Space Grey \| Fox Red with CF Structure \| 6MT \| 260M \| My build
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Z06M3 ///M... 19 Rep 265 Posts Drives: 15 Z06 \| 16 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	What's mind boggling to me is why we are still charged the $1300 guzzler tax. Should have had the option to have this feature and save on that tax or pay the tax and keep this feature off. Just another thing to worry about breaking down now.
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Gkap BMF Movement 51 Rep 3,024 Posts Drives: Women Crazy Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: GTA iTrader: (1)	maybe it is differentin Australia. but most places the auto start stop button is off unless you choose to turn it on.
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