2009 Boxster S PDK vs 2009 BMW M3 DCT?

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by slicer

I think the boxster/cayman platform is great but I find the M3 far more enjoyable to drive. I'm not sure sure how you arrived at this conclusion but it seems over the top and unfounded to me... And I own both cars.

I owned a 987.1 cayman S. I also owned a z4m coupe which was one of the most fun to drive BMWS but still didnt match the cayman S and the new cayman S is much better than them all.

America's best handling car under 100k. Boxster was #1. M3 didn't even rank top 3.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

Cayman/boxster have so much more feel, balance and poise. They truly make the m3 feel like a small SUV I'm comparison to their nimble go kart type drive.

The m3 is great and I've owned more m3s and m cars than 99% of this forum. But it's competition is close within its segment and there are many many cars that are all around better performers than it. The boxster and cayman platforms are simply better in terms of anything performance/handling/feel no ifs, ands or buts about it.

[slicer]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

I owned a 987.1 cayman S. I also owned a z4m coupe which was one of the most fun to drive BMWS but still didnt match the cayman S and the new cayman S is much better than them all.

America's best handling car under 100k. Boxster was #1. M3 didn't even rank top 3.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

Cayman/boxster have so much more feel, balance and poise. They truly make the m3 feel like a small SUV I'm comparison to their nimble go kart type drive.

The m3 is great and I've owned more m3s and m cars than 99% of this forum. But it's competition is close within its segment and there are many many cars that are all around better performers than it. The boxster and cayman platforms are simply better in terms of anything performance/handling/feel no ifs, ands or buts about it.

Interesting article. I think I'm going to sell my M3 and get an RX8.

[rondocap]

Here it is!

[Craigy]

Originally Posted by rondocap

Here it is!

Beautiful car, man, nice choice!

[W///]

Originally Posted by slicer

Interesting article. I think I'm going to sell my M3 and get an RX8.

Haha touche sir

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by slicer

Interesting article. I think I'm going to sell my M3 and get an RX8.

I agree. I may sell my m3 too and get Honda S 2000. Fun car to drive

[krnnerdboy]

Congrats again! Enjoy one of the best handling cars in the world. Kicking myself for not owning a boxster/cayman yet!

[threewide]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

...America's best handling car under 100k. Boxster was #1. M3 didn't even rank top 3.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature...

"If we had to choose one car to live with, the M3 would be a strong favorite"

About sums it up for me. No doubt I enjoyed the Cayman S at the track more, but the M3 had it all around (I drove an old sedan, now have an e90 M3 sedan so what do I know? ).

The latest Boxter's are stunners too. Have a few at work and they are simply gorgeous.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by rondocap

Here it is!

Was gonna say the 09s just look ugly but it does look pretty good in this pic. Congrats!

(Dont be jealous when an m3 rolls up on you )

[rondocap]

I've been driving the Boxster S a lot lately, and am very impressed. If I had only one car, the m3 is great- but for a second car the Boxster is special. I still plan to own an e90 m3 sometime in the farther future.

Performance wise it seems to have more torque earlier than the m3, it's not quite the high revver the m3 is, but the flat 6 is very exciting regardless.

Like the m3, everything is super responsive from throttle to steering input, perhaps even more so. I don't have sports chrono with my pdk but I plan to retrofit, I think it will help in shifting aggression as the pdk feels softer than the DCT in M mode.

But I know the Boxster sometimes gets less attention vs the 911 and Cayman, but I believe it is the best value for dollar Porsche - you get practically the same car as the Cayman but with a convertable roof, for less!

[krnnerdboy]

Nice color choice! I have much respect for the boxster/cayman and in many ways believe it to be superior to the 911

[325rider]

Originally Posted by capybaras

"If we had to choose one car to live with, the M3 would be a strong favorite"

About sums it up for me. No doubt I enjoyed the Cayman S at the track more, but the M3 had it all around (I drove a ZHP sedan, now have an e90 M3 sedan so what do I know? ).

The latest Boxter's are stunners too. Have a few at work and they are simply gorgeous.

I drove a full bolt on e46 sedan too (OEM zhp bodykit, PSS9, everything I wanted done to her really the list goes on) and now Im in an e90. My oh my do I miss the raw feel of the e46. I will always be in love it was so hard to sell her but I had to move on

[threewide]

Originally Posted by 325rider

I drove a full bolt on e46 sedan too (OEM zhp bodykit, PSS9, everything I wanted done to her really the list goes on) and now Im in an e90. My oh my do I miss the raw feel of the e46. I will always be in love it was so hard to sell her but I had to move on

Oh yeah. I was one with my ZHP. Hoping to get the same out of my e90

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by krnnerdboy

Nice color choice! I have much respect for the boxster/cayman and in many ways believe it to be superior to the 911

In the past, based on layout maybe, though the GT3 was so dialed in you'd never find anyone to say they were better than a GTx car. But with the 991 being basically a mid engined car, that is no longer the case.

[rondocap]

I'd love to have a 991 911 Carrera S. I think performance wise that car really takes it to another level.

But, my Boxster S with PDK is super satisfying and in the $30k's, A decent used 991 S is still near $90-100k. That's a huge difference in price, and I still think you get 90% of that "Porsche" experience with the Boxster.

The Boxster is so good, that really the only car that still tempts me in the back of my mind once in a while is the E90 M3 with DCT.

I wish the MPG was better on the M3 so I'd get rid of my Daily driver GTI for it, but unfortunately that would sting! For the amount I drive, it's best cars like that stay as the second car and something more economical as my main vehicle.

[dmk08]

I always wondered who all these guys were who would buy a boxster or an s2000. I guess this is the forum to find those ppl. Lol.

Anyway I would go M3 no questions.

[rondocap]

s2000 is not on the same level as a PDK Boxster S - and in my opinion the Boxster S as a sports car is a notch above the M3. This is from extensively having driven both and pushed them.

As a daily driver though, the M3 is a bit more practical aside from the MPG. Both do have a lot of similarities going for them, dual clutch transmissions (or manual), NA engines, wonderful exhaust note, instant throttle response, tight steering and handling, etc.

Originally Posted by dmk08

I always wondered who all these guys were who would buy a boxster or an s2000. I guess this is the forum to find those ppl. Lol.

Anyway I would go M3 no questions.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by rondocap

s2000 is not on the same level as a PDK Boxster S - and in my opinion the Boxster S as a sports car is a notch above the M3. This is from extensively having driven both and pushed them.

As a daily driver though, the M3 is a bit more practical aside from the MPG. Both do have a lot of similarities going for them, dual clutch transmissions (or manual), NA engines, wonderful exhaust note, instant throttle response, tight steering and handling, etc.

They are the same in the little roadster thing. I associate little roadsters with girl cars. Don't know why I always have.

[rondocap]

That's not a good basis for judging a car, I'd recommend you drive an s2000 or Boxster - unless you are more concerned with image rather than performance.

But I've heard that before, and it doesn't help that the last 3 boxsters I saw on the road were girls, ha.

[Yvette]

well I haven't driven 987 so I can't comment.
I did drive 981 Cayman and I was blown. the car is wrapping around your body and the engine growls right behind your head. My m3 is staying with me but I would love to add 981 cayman s to my garage. It was a definitely different nice feeling from the m3. This is also coming from a former z4mc owner. Another level from z4mc.

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by dmk08

They are the same in the little roadster thing. I associate little roadsters with girl cars. Don't know why I always have.

go drive one.

[Bolos]

Can't believe this is even a question.

M3 all day everyday.


Box is too fem IMO.

Exhaust looks like a poop shoot hole.