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11-25-2009, 02:15 PM | #45 |
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Someone asked about the lack of roll bar and the E93 has a pop up roll restraint thing that is acceptable (and approved by the events I frequent) for tracking the car. It's suppose to pop up in milliseconds when the system detects a roll. Hopefully I will never have to test it.
In response to the cool people (obviously there are a bunch here) thanks for the support. In response to the hater and posers, till I can see some video of you on the track, I'll stick to asking professional drivers and instructors (as I've been doing) for advice. Now that I know the culture here I will post more stuff because I know someone will get something out of it. |
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thanks for the clarification on the roll bar / pop up restraint, i didnt know the E93 had that... i guess in my car my skull will serve as roll-up restraint i'm gonna have to check your blog and vids at home tonight... Thanks MrTrackDay ! Pat |
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11-25-2009, 02:36 PM | #48 |
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Thank you for sharing your experience with the E93. Very informative, and helpful information. An actual history helps a lot. I share your opinion on the BFG R1s. I run them on my track car, and am pleased with the performance. Likely, they will be my tire of choice for the E92 should I decide to track it. Jury is still out if I will, but we will see what the year brings when next season rolls around - new products I hope. Question, did Turner recommend the spacers front and rear because of the rims you ordered? Seem a lot, but I don't know. Unless I missed it, what brake package did you decide to go with? Lastly, don't let any flack here defer you from posting opinions. A lot of us are interested in whats happening with this car on the track. Continue to sing out. vz
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John, welcome to the forum and don't let these poseurs break your spirits!!!
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Please don't let the haters stop you from posting on here. You wrote two great articles, and I'm looking forward to hearing a review on a stoptech BBK! Enjoy the car, and have fun on the track. I hope to get on there next season, and I might have to invest in that wheel/tire package. Also, let me know what you think of the suspension on the track. |
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11-25-2009, 04:29 PM | #52 |
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Hi,
Hope to track my E90 next year. I'm curious though. What kind of problems are you referring to (first post)? Brake fatigue only? I'm using a different approach. I've bought a second set of OEM wheels (19") and will track the car without any mods. Brakes should be a problem, but I'm aiming at having fun and not lap times. Hence the OEM tires. Slicks are faster but less fun! |
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11-25-2009, 06:33 PM | #54 |
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duuuude sweet ride, and props for have'n more balls then 80% of these guys on here for actually tracking your car! I'm fairly new too, but have noticed if you don't have what everyone else does then your different therefore people attack. But the good news is there are some of us who think its awesome going against the grain of what's normal. All i have to complain about is.... MORE PICS AND VIDEOS PLEASE!
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11-25-2009, 07:14 PM | #55 |
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I don't know if everyone is referring to me being cynical against vert's. That was not my intention. I have a sufficient knowledge of cars, but I know there are people on this forum that surpass my knowledge. I was simply asking why would someone use a vert for the track. My assumption was that verts perform substantially less than coupes for obvious reasons. I was hoping someone would school me, and someone did. Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
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Do you have a manual or DCT? Driving School? (I know it was asked but didnt see the response) |
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11-26-2009, 12:39 AM | #57 |
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Thanks for posting your experience. I have had similar problems with my brakes on an e90 m3. Driving with stock pads, I warped the front rotors slightly on my first track day. I thought bedding the brakes would alleviate the mild shudder but after the 2nd day they were totally warped.
I read a post on another forum about brake ducts and had them installed by Cantrell Motorports (who are fantastic) in Seattle along with Goodrich SS lines, Motul brake fluid, and Pagid yellow endurance pads. Made a noticeable difference but still had issues with brake fade. Then, I spun at Pacific Raceways and a large rock took out the oil cooler and the front right brake duct but suspension was fine. So I converted back to stock front ducts. Car is in perfect condition now and lack of brake ducts didn't make a huge difference my last track day. But of course ambient temp was much cooler. My friend has an e46 with Stop Techs and he has never had an issue with his brakes. I am now convinced that BBK is the only way to alleviate this problem and this will be my winter project. Probably Stop Tech due to costs but that AP racing BBK looks pretty juicy. I was considering the tire rack light weight wheels (TRMotorsports MT1) which are only18.5 and 19 lbs f/r but now I might go for the D-force. They are similar in look and price. Did you consider these wheels? If so, why did you pick the D-force? Nice post. Glad to see someone else out there with similar track fever! |
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Welcome.
Nice ride and blog. ...I would say something about the half ass brakes but it seems as if EVERYONE is/has gone through the EXACT same thing.
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11-26-2009, 07:47 AM | #59 |
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I'm trading in my 09 M3 this month for a dedicated track car. The e92 is just not hard-core enough for me. I'll be picking up a 2010 X6M. Does anyone have some suggestions for how to convert this vehicle to dedicated track use?
Just kidding, thanks Mr. Trackday for your interesting post and link.
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Yes, as a matter of fact I do. Take the whole interior out. Leave the wheel, seat, pedals, and shifter in. Then Lower it 5 inches, and cut the roof down 6 inches and replace it with aluminum foil. Let me know how you make out.
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11-26-2009, 11:33 AM | #62 |
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beside the security issue tracking it top down would slice through the air like a parachute.
but seriously The compromised body rigidity results in a torsion prone connection between the front axles and back axle causing understeer and more unpredictable behaviour at or close to the limit. Together with slick tires that will 'mask' this and all of a sudden let go and the extra pounds you have more chances to go sideways or spin the car. The issue is not just how the vert will perform but it will not be as safe on a track even for a non professional but serious track enthusiast. |
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Looks like you went out with TDE? I have to look out for this black vert when im out there next. I came out to many of their events this year, had my (now sold) silverstoneII M3 sedan out there a few times and TWS toasted the brakes! You going out to the Jan/feb events? Awesome write up and congrats!
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I agree, it's a pig, and no doubt the E93 is even more of a handfull. But it's pretty well behaved and a good dual use car. BTW - have you had any overheating issues in the Texas summer? On a couple of occasions last summer in 100+ heat it went into limp mode. PS pump issues? Mine is now making a noise that is most certainly a PS pump ready to give up the ghost. |
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