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You sure about that?! FYI, just a regular $10k supercharger kit like the VT2-625 will bring a DCT E9x in the 10s on the 1/4 mile with +130mph traps, I'm not an expert of the F8x but I know that the S55 will need A LOT of mods, and fuel, and meth to go there and that's without speaking about the traction issue of a +600tq rwd front engine car, also I'm sure it will need a turbo upgrade to surpass what a stock block S65 can do with a blower!
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I sense it is going to be tough to easily extract a lot of aftermarket power from the F8x. There are no secondary cats from the factory and the primaries appear to be small and efficient. I'm not expecting huge gains from downpipes/exhausts. The intercooler looks very good and would be very complicated to replace compared to an A2A FMIC on an N54. Hence, I don't see much potential for intercooler upgrades. Given the stock power levels it doesn't appear there is a ton more room to safely add PSI with the existing turbos. This a long way of saying I think the F80 is comparatively maxed out from the factory and I don't see the same leaps-and-bounds power increases from simple bolt ons on the S55 as with the N54. |
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11.8 at 119 on street tires with no mods, for a 2 week old F80 M3 at my local drag strip in NH. That is about the same as Drew did with all the bolt on mods and drag radials with his E92. Yes, stage 2 supercharged E9x M3 with all the bolt ons are faster. The new M3s will get modded more and more as time goes on.
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I'm sure most of the intercooled superchargers could pull 10's with proper tires and some 100 octane.
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As for a FBO F8x running 10.xx, very possible, but to say that a E9x will need more then a typical s/c kit to compete with one is very optimistic I think, don't forget that a VT2-650 like everyone can put on their stock S65 trap between 132-134mph. Not sure if you realise how fast that is, so here's an exemple of what it can do agains other very fast cars |
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I'm pretty familiar with what a VT2 can do seeing as though my turbo M3 makes 600whp on low boost. |
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As for the reason I'm running a VT1 , it's mostly a question of need, my M3 has always been a daily driver, even in the winter here in Quebec so I did'nt needed a +650hp, it was also a question of budget, a VT2-625 was ~$5k more then my VT1 back when I purchased it and I would have probably needed BBK and coil-overs to go with it! Since then I installed test pipes and upgraded my VT535 to 550 pulley. I could'nt be happier with my car right now, It's very reliable, it sounds glorious, and goes more then fast enough so I don't see any reason to upgrade my kit...or my car as a mather of fact! |
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But I do think that once the M4 has full bolt on with a tune and proper rubber and fuel, it will do 10s. So we will just have to wait and see. But this route for a M4 might be more obtainable than a 10 sec E9x M3. |
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And franckly, I'm not really sure that running E85(or simlar fuel)+meth+FBOs and tune on a F8x is really more "obtanable" then just bolting a S/C kit on an E9x. Maybe a bit less expensive, but surely not less of a hassle. Also I would say that running E85+meth in a F8x is pretty similar to adding some race gaz in the tank of an E9x IMO, which everyone can do at low cost. In fact I'm about to do this, I'm getting my self a can of 109octane that I'll be mixing with my 94 to bring it to ~96-97octane, that should make a pretty good difference! |
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I think top end... if the strongest SCd e92 kit is in the right gear, it would run away from the M4. Stock for stock or tune only... it becomes laughable for the e92 but that is a different story.
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Just found this video today. Interesting how the DCT E92 held up against the M4.
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You will need new turbos on the new m3/4 to really make huge leaps in trap speed to what a VT625/650 M3 was doing in addition to the tune and full bolts ons the m3/4 already have available. And stock for stock, the m3/4 should easily pull the e9x m3, its making 420-420 WHP STOCK vs 350 WHP on a stock e9x M3. Last edited by Wolfinwolfsclothing; 09-18-2014 at 04:00 PM.. |
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I don't think the 997.2 Turbo S does 130 stock. It's more like 128 vBox from the magazine testing. So maybe 127 drag strip stock. But it's also underrated at 530 crank HP. Mine made 501/536 on an AWD mustang dyno bone stock. So it's probably more like 560-580 crank HP stock. On the same day I trapped 130.3 with my 997.2 with a tune, the EAS M3 (ESS 625 blower with Akra Evo) also did a 130 trap. Anyway I'm going to race Terry's M4 at the NFZ Airstrip event Nov 15 to see what happens between the world's most powerful M4 and a full weight daily driver ESS blown M3.
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http://www.porsche**********/content...2-World-record Even so, 501 rwhp is WAY less than what Terry's car is putting down, and they both are about the same weight so just shows the 911 puts the power down like no other. Dont think I can think of many other 501 whp or 560 crank hp cars that can trap 130 mph in stock form. And good luck at the event! |
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No doubt the 911 puts the power down better. Engine in the back + wide rear tires + AWD + PDK will do that.
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