VIDEO: VF620 M3 vs modded '13 GTR Black Edition

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by erm324

Extremely true........kind of reminds me of the N54 scene, you can run two 335's with similar bolt ons and race gas and the results will be different.....all dependent on how aggressively they are tuned! some of these e85 gtr's are ticking time bombs.....I know the one I raced blew up 3 weeks later

Always sucks to hear about that kind of stuff.

[IMG]

Originally Posted by kotik

before the run i tightened my clamps. I have checked my boost levels after clamp tightening (although not before), and I'm hitting target 5.5 psi at redline.

But the ESS 575 kit is rated for 6PSI not 5.5 !

[joe@trinityautosport]

Originally Posted by dvpouldar26

That GT-R is definitely not a FBO car on e85, more probably just a midpipe and a tune. According to the first video, the car had Stillen downpipes. Stillen does not make downpipes for the GT-R. It also said he was at 20psi on 91 octane on a Cobb tune. Cobb off the shelf tunes are running 15psi. That car definitely can't be running 20psi on 91 octane. Furthermore, injectors and intake were not on that mod list and the the stock injectors would be far maxed out before reaching 20psi as well as the MAF on a stock intake........a little fishy, but nonetheless very impressive for the m3.

AGAIN....Going off of what HE told me.

[NOTFA5T]

Originally Posted by joe@trinityautosport

AGAIN....Going off of what HE told me.

It's all good bro. Some people lie to sound cool. Example is the GTR owner haha. Nice runs!

[joe@trinityautosport]

Originally Posted by NOTFA5T

It's all good bro. Some people lie to sound cool. Example is the GTR owner haha. Nice runs!

LOL...exactly. Thanks!

[m33]

What does the black edition trap and clock in the 1/4 ?

[sensi09]

Originally Posted by kotik

Hitman's GTR does this to me well, maybe not that bad. And it's def not that bad if we start at around 140mph... we did 140-200mph roll's, and he gets 2-3cars on pump gas. 100-200mph he gets truck lenght on e85.

Wow....rolls starting at 140mph. I'd like to try that some day

[lm1z]

Making these GTR's look slow. Truly impressed by boosted M3's and unimpressed by these modded GTR's. What's the deal??

[dvpouldar26]

Originally Posted by joe@trinityautosport

AGAIN....Going off of what HE told me.

Originally Posted by NOTFA5T

It's all good bro. Some people lie to sound cool. Example is the GTR owner haha. Nice runs!

Originally Posted by joe@trinityautosport

LOL...exactly. Thanks!

Haha, it's cool. It was a good race nonetheless.

[JDM3]

Originally Posted by m33

What does the black edition trap and clock in the 1/4 ?

2013 trap 125 and ET range from 10.8-11.0. They have a revised launch control allowing for
better 60' and 15 more hp than 2012.

[m33]

Wow that's fast for
Out the box !

[akh23456]

That's crazy I remember stock09 Gtr's were trapping 120-122 mph

[GrumpyBimmerFan]

Originally Posted by lm1z

Making these GTR's look slow. Truly impressed by boosted M3's and unimpressed by these modded GTR's. What's the deal??

Many factors, like others mentioned... light weight of m's, SC'ed with supporting mods (meth, catless), auto tranny. Like somene mentioned before, in classic configuration of 6spd manual, the result may differ quite a bit (no matter how fast you think you can shift, and there is no flat shifting with SC)... I don't run meth, i'm a 6spd, and with smaller SC kit, results don't look the same... although i'm pretty sure I can give slightly modded GTR run for it's money in straight line. When I was at Spa, there was a stock 2011 gtr, and from low speed turns, he had a lot more torque down low and was able to catch up to me in those sections... but once again, i'm manual and can't do 2nd to 1st shifts at low speeds, plus traction would be an issue.

here is a vid from that... he was quite a bit behind me, but towards the end my brakes started to heat up, so I let him lead for a lap (I let him pass around 18:30).

[lm1z]

Originally Posted by kotik

Many factors, like others mentioned... light weight of m's, SC'ed with supporting mods (meth, catless), auto tranny. Like somene mentioned before, in classic configuration of 6spd manual, the result may differ quite a bit (no matter how fast you think you can shift, and there is no flat shifting with SC)... I don't run meth, i'm a 6spd, and with smaller SC kit, results don't look the same... although i'm pretty sure I can give slightly modded GTR run for it's money in straight line. When I was at Spa, there was a stock 2011 gtr, and from low speed turns, he had a lot more torque down low and was able to catch up to me in those sections... but once again, i'm manual and can't do 2nd to 1st shifts at low speeds, plus traction would be an issue.

here is a vid from that... he was quite a bit behind me, but towards the end my brakes started to heat up, so I let him lead for a lap (I let him pass around 18:30).

very cool

it's obviously that 4 wheel drive will clearly benefit on the track, and the torque down low will definitely help out of corners. regardless, for the type of car i would personally want to drive on the street, it has been very hard to get out of the ///m. i hopped in a 2007 911 Turbo and while it was fast, it wasn't THAT fast, the tranny was a slushbox (no pdk until '09), and the interior was already starting to wear after only 14k. there's just something about these cars that emotionally grabs you and it's hard to break free.

[unclejesse1]

Originally Posted by erm324

According to a thread on NAGTROC this video is BS and the gtr was stock (there is no way you can run the claimed boost in the video on that octane without the motor knocking itself to death, and on top of it stillen doesnt even make downpipes lol).

Also, from my experience against GTR's I would agree - GTR's with those modifications can trap ~130+ in the 1/4, and I personally dont see a 6 speed off the shelf VF620 (no race gas, no meth, no DCT) pulling that hard on a car that traps that high - let alone be able to hand around from a 1st gear roll like you said. Looks more to me the M3 ran a stock 2012 Black Edition like many others have said on the other forums.

Nice run nonetheless!

This video is very misleading

[joe@trinityautosport]

Originally Posted by unclejesse1

This video is very misleading

Please read my other posts.

[IFX]

I don't understand how the M pulled so hard. Especially it being MT.

[joe@trinityautosport]

Originally Posted by IFX

I don't understand how the M pulled so hard. Especially it being MT.

My car is SUPERMAN JK...but the GTR wasn't pushing 20psi or he would of whooped me. Most likely 14-15lbs.

[Glasgo]

I have a VF-650 DCT car, and haven't had the oppurtunity to pull against any GT-R's yet, but I have driven them. And my, they are fast. If you truly pulled on him, I'm impressed. Interested to see the results when you race the E85 tuned GT-R...I don't think that one will go as well. Cheers.

[mattixxg]

Originally Posted by lm1z

Making these GTR's look slow. Truly impressed by boosted M3's and unimpressed by these modded GTR's. What's the deal??

In a phrase, the lack of Switzer. As with most, all tunes are not created equal.
Switzer tunes are pure insanity.

Then theres from a dig...

[Hisam135i]

Sounds amazing, that thing pulls!!

[justinm330i]

Great run to both the M3 and the GTR.