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09-18-2013, 08:39 PM | #1 |
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Will the modded 335i vs m3 discussions stop with the m4?
What's better than a manual vs DCT thread? Not much, but the original bad boy was the m3 vs modded 335's that always popped up. Obviously misguided as the m3 isn't about just power.
But, what will happen now that we have a turbo m3/m4? Chances are anything a 335 can do, the m4 will go further. So I predict the end of these comparisons in the next gen. I suspect most m3 owners never gave much credence to these anyway, and it was mostly 335 owners doing the comparing. |
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Aren't they making a 435I so it will start over again..
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09-18-2013, 09:44 PM | #3 |
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The big question is, will a tuned 335 have similar power to a tuned M3/M4/4GC?
Probably not since the N55 doesn't seem to produce the power the N54 did. .
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God I hope so! I ran into a guy I used to work with who just got a 335is. I told him I got a M3. The first thing he says, "Do you know my car has my torque". I won't be associating with him again!
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Think it will actually get worse, now that its FI vs FI..at least with this last gen, you can't deny the uniqueness of a high-revving N/A engine.
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The 335i/435i owners will reason their purchase. They will say, "well, I spent $10k less than you with the M4. If I spend that 10k on mods, my car will destroy yours (in a straight line)."
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There is NO DEBATE among M3 drivers, this is purely invented by (some) 3-owners. Imagine Carrera owners looking to mod-like 911 Turbos? Please, save your dough. I'd recommend the Pontiac Fiero - Ferrari conversion kits instead, like they did back in the day. At least you'd actually save money to create the knock off. Make your car to your own, there's beauty in that. Don't try to make it into a different factory car, that's just weird. |
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The fact that BMW is going to a twin turbo 3.0L inline 6 for all around performance and daily driveability like the 135/335 with N54 speaks for itself.
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It appears they are slowly but deliberately milking 40 years of customer goodwill in the brand (something that was hard earned and not without huge ups and downs here in the USA over that time), milking a new cast of buyers while forgetting (not caring actually) what got them there in the first place. It's the modern MBA-way -- cost reduce, increase margins, milk decades of customer goodwill out of a brand over a few short years -- why? Because of the way corporate rewards are structured. What gets rewarded is what gets done.
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09-19-2013, 07:24 AM | #15 |
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BMW's answer to the modded 335 vs m3 threads was the 1M, hahaha.
But somehow I think the 335 vs m3 will never end because some group will be like "with the saved money i can put in a roll cage, track tires, coils and take out my whole interior and beat a new M4 around a track" because that is a perfectly logical comparison, haha. |
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tuned 435 vs m4 thread is next ... until you mod the m4.
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09-19-2013, 08:30 AM | #17 |
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There will be no 435i vs M4 threads, as BMW got things right this time and the enthusiasts will buy the M4 right away.
*flamesuit on*
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09-19-2013, 08:48 AM | #18 |
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What some fail to realize is WHY the 335i vs M3 debate arose.
Simply because the E9X M3 from the factory is not THE Uber-performer as is was the case with the previous generations. Yes, you get the nicer bodywork, some (slight) interior changes, better suspension. And a different engine. I'm saying different and not bestter on purpose, because the S65 really does not appeal to all. Lack of torque, horrible mpg. You get the picture. If you don't, simply check the "why did you leave the M3" thread in the VS subforum. And then you have the 335i which, with some simple mods can be made to run faster in a straight line than its big brother. For alot less money. BMW shot itself in the foot with this one.
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I wonder how BMW will deal with these differences for the M3/M4 variants.
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