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I have a 2010 M3 Sedan 6SPD Manual, and in my personal opinion, the M3 it's a unique car. What I do mean by saying "unique" is, it's a super fast, "neck turning" super sport car that's built for people that love speed, extreme handling/cornering, and outlast performance, with a very low MPG rate. If you like a roomy, smooth ride, and extra luxury on a car, then the M3 it's not your best fit. I do love it, in every aspect, and I'll recommend it to anyone that meets the "unique" features I mentioned before. After all, they (BMWs) are called "THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE" for good reasons. |
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I went by the Subi dealership here in Charleston and they flat out told me no Sti test drives. Seriously, I'm driving a $80K M3 and you are not going to let me see if this Sti is worth being a second car in my garage. They told me Sti owners are picky and dont want one with mileage. How am I supposed to know I want one unless I drive it, come on now, this is a $34K car not a P, M, or whatever car. It's in the same leage as a Mustang which you can test drive all day long.
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I drive a modded 335i now and NEVER EVER even remotely considered an Sti or Evo. You are talking about two completely different demographics man. As far as beating an M3 here there and everywhere...keep dreaming. On top of that, if I wanted a dedicated drag/track car, I'd shell out $40K and get an '06Z06 with long tube headers,etc. and work virtually everything under the sun...and would totally obliterate a modded Sti or Evo. At the end of the day, the Sti and Evo are nice performing cars but not even remotely close to being considered in the same sentence as an M3 or 911 in terms of total package (performance, build quality, fit and finish, luxury, creature comforts,etc) It's really that simple. Simple scenario/question - you can now afford an M3 or Porsche 911.....you are going to sit there and tell me you'd buy an STi or Evo and THINK you have a comparable car to either of those (M3 or 911)? That's rich Last edited by alms211; 09-12-2010 at 09:12 AM.. |
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Couldn't expect anything less than these comments from a "Modified 335i owner" I never knew how much junk 335i owners added to this forum, 335i vs. M3, modded 335i vs. M3, blah blah blah. Ever been to a track day, have you ever seen a 400whp EVO or STI go around a track? Oops I took the bait, let's do something completely idiotic by comparing an EVO/STI and continuing pointless banter. When EVERYONE agrees the M3 is a great car, in a class of cars that is often considered the benchmark for the performance car market. Part of being an enthusiast is being able to appreciate other cars for their positives, if you can't appreciate the performance package that an EVO or STI is without feeling that your holy grail the M3 being threatened, well you've got to seriously re-think your choice of a hobby. |
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Once you start the "modding" of any car (see your 400hp comment above)...the original discussion goes out the window. Yes, I have been to the track many, many times and most recently in the seat of a ZR1 about 45 days ago. I know a little bit about race prepped cars. You are not talking to some fanboi. All you have to do is look at my signature and see the mix of cars that I have owned in the past 3-4 years and it is abundantly clear. Wise up. |
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Pretty sure there has been more than one M3 vs. STI or Evo thread on this forum. A simple search would have turned it up but I'm guessing that wasn't your intent.
The STI is a good overall car for its price; the 2011 car is even better. You have over $20k price difference between the M3 and STI. Just sit in each without even driving and you can feel it. Last time I looked the M3 didn't have trunk liner for its cabin headliner, unlike my 08 STI. Then of course I couldn't pack in 4 rims and carry my 7 year old in an M3 either while driving in 6 inches of snow. To there are trade-offs but given the opportunity, I'll take the M3. You interlagos blue, 09 sedan owner’s with bamboo interior take good care of your M3’s, I’ll be looking in March of 2012. Feel free to do some tasteful mods like CF lip, diffuser, and kidney grills. |
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I ate a STi last week. This guy picked a wrong M to play. He did pretty good consider I have S/C.
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I don't think you can compare an STI to an M3, but I know a couple of friends who own STI's and Evo's as their track car, even a guys with 997TT have them, they are great cars for the price, and really good track cars, they are just in a different class, but great performance wise, I would think the thread should be...Would you guys consider an STI for a dedicated RACE TRACK car
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Bang for buck (up to a point) there are tons of cars that are better than an m3. Since for the most part we need something that goes from A to B. I find the STI to be good performer and when tuned they can be scary. I personally find them hard on the eyes. We all want the best we can get at our price range and to be honest from a vehicle class perspective the sti is not close to the m3. We may not like to admit it but image and brand can play a part in our purchasing decision. So it could be a little bruising to the ego when a less expensive car is compared to a more expensive car. I won't dump on the STI because they are good cars and bring solid performance for a decent price. I will take steaming dumps over people who drive anything and feel the need to red red rover at every traffic light though. All cars are good Some people, well not so much. |
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Sure it is. Just not in what you personally look for in a car. You can't use performance as the only category on a car's value.
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I'm not referring only to quality. There are things like EDC and the carbon fiber roof. Yes, it's "mostly" aesthetic, but how much would that add to the price of an EVO? We're not only talking parts, but all the engineering and R&D put into it. Then there's the high-revving S65. How much would it cost Mitsubishi to develop and sell a car with an engine like that? Those things give more value to the M3. Otherwise this forum is full of idiots or people with way too much money.
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Personally, i feel paying 67k sticker for the E90 M3 is not worth the price printed. But I have different criterias on what I think is a worth 67k sticker. I think this thread's trended way too much into the "subjective" categories as I mentioned before. As someone mentioned, if you look beyond the pure performance numbers, the leather, look and feel of the car all caters to the buyer's subjective tastes, and if one feels compelled that paying 67k for a E90 or around 70K for E92 is worth it, then BMW has done their job properly. Else someone else like me would buy a pre-owned one. I'd like to see someone try to disbute this comment. And yes I can afford to pay 67k. |
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