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I've heard good things about both. I drove akashes AA kit in NY, and the car drove well. Haven't driven a car with an ESS kit yet, and haven't driven one with a VF kit yet. Both are on my list to drive when I have time. Personally I like the looks of the AA manifold the best, but ESS has quite a few kits out there in comparison to others. I'd say you can't go wrong with either blower, pick which ever one has the most local support for you, best price point, and obviously matches your needs in terms of power.
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And a typical answer from a fanboy... no help at all
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10-31-2012, 07:35 AM | #26 |
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I considered that option but was not ready to take the test pipes off for the smog test.
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10-31-2012, 07:43 AM | #27 | |
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Its not about being an ess fan, its juts been very obvious thT Ess kits are the winners Nice g power kit there I already ran an skll sc'ed M3 fiew months back with my ess 575 before i upgrade to 600 That car was slow Ess, VF= for men
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Since when does a money shift indicate a tuning/longevity issue?
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10-31-2012, 08:42 AM | #29 | |
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AA Stage 1: $ 13750 ESS VT1-535: $8290 (standard ESS, ECU cable) DIFFERENCE: $5460 ESS VT2-575: $ 10790 (standart ESS, ECU cable, intercooled) DIFFERENCE: $2960 so the intercooled ESS system is still $3000 cheaper than the AA, the VT1 ESS is over $5000 bugs cheaper! (and that's a lot of money!!) |
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10-31-2012, 08:58 AM | #31 | |
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And if you really want to get into dick swinging you can run your car up against mine at the Nurburgring any time you want. There are 2 VT600s over here and they are only good for 580bhp.
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10-31-2012, 09:18 AM | #32 |
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They both have 200cpi cats. Not sure where the AA HFCS are, but with the Turner pipes, they're in the secondary position which doesn't seem to affect performance as much.
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The V-Bands are the way to go for a long lasting leak free seal with easy removeability. A number of people using the Turner test pipes had to weld them for a leak free fit, which makes going back much more difficult and expensive. On the other hand, V-Bands add to the initial cost.
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10-31-2012, 10:55 AM | #36 | |
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Was talking about another kit nice to know that. I ran Meth on my setup for 30k KM without the need for any further mapping or tuning with 0 issues NurBurgRing!! A good driver doesn't need extra 10 or 20hp to run another car with identical power on the track I was talking street racing 70km/h to 300km/h! Pure power race! DCT vs DCT
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Hey man, here's the last word. You get clowns on here that will tell you if you don't go with one kit over another your an idiot and the only reason they do that is because they feel the need to justify their purchase more. I have a Gintani kit on my car and to be honest I feel like they are the least represented kit on this forum. Why? I'm not sure but I heard all sorts of rumors and some members can be very biased on here. I'm glad I didn't listen to all that nonsense because I did a little research and spoke to the Gintani team, seen the quality work they do and in the end am extremely happy with my decision. I've seen VF cars and ESS cars out here in so cal and spoken with a chap who had a g power kit. Trust me when I say that no matter what kit you get, they ALL perform about the same and I guarantee you that you will not be the baddest thing out there on the street. Period! Just do a little homework in terms of talking to the actual company and in the end just go with whoever makes you feel most comfortable. If you end up getting AA you aren't going to have any regrets just like if you go with ESS. 99 percent of the time you won't be rolling up to a stop light against another M who has a different kit on his/her car and if you ever do and the kits are a comparable level, it's gonna come down to driver and supporting mods (tires, x pipe, yada yada yada) so just be happy with what you get and enjoy the hell out of it! Best of luck
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I don't even need the SC on the track
Straight line race proves what kit puts down more power when running identical boost and this is what i was trying to tell. Last edited by GirlsGarage; 10-31-2012 at 12:01 PM.. |
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