MKpoto's Audio Upgrade

mkPOTO · 10-07-2013, 01:41 PM

Hey Guys,

So I wanted to make a thread about my latest project for my E92 M3. I am not a car audio expert like the many in here, but came upon a nice upgrade option that I wanted to share.

One of the things that I was annoyed about was the audio that was in the E92 M3. My car is equipped with the Hi-Fi system and it does the job, but was missing what I use to have in my old 335i. (Logic 7) It was not a priority to me to upgrade as many other items came first. Also, seeing what was involved turned me off a bit and I told myself I could wait.

Fast forward to a few months ago, a long time family friend started to work for MB Quart, he let me know of a direct fitment speaker set would be released by them.I was very excited to hear about this and asked him to sell me a set when they arrived.

So here is what I have currently going into my car. I am not sure if I want to go with a sub in the trunk, and still debating on this. What are you guys currently running size wise in the trunk?

THE GOODIES

I went to MB Quart to pick up the BMW speakers and left with 2 amps and wiring kit! (ha)

Current Setup ready to install
MB Quart BMW Speaker Kit
http://www.mbquart.com/mbquart_bmw_speakers.html
MB Quart RM740.5 AMP
MB Quart RM1000.1 AMP (if I decide to use a Sub in the Trunk)
Rockford Fosgate 3sixty.3 (for Bluetooth streaming and as a processer)

Enough talk, on to the pictures. I will have pictures of when the install begins.

Unboxing

Mid's

Subwoofer

Manual.. pretty nice how much detail is in it

iamcpap · 10-07-2013, 01:58 PM

Nice dude... glad to finally see this coming together.

whats77inaname · 10-07-2013, 02:06 PM

Nice! For the sub, I'm running an Image Dynamics ID10D4 V.3. Does the job nicely. Be aware it is a SQL sub, not an SPL sub.

mkPOTO · 10-07-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whats77inaname

Nice! For the sub, I'm running an Image Dynamics ID10D4 V.3. Does the job nicely. Be aware it is a SQL sub, not an SPL sub.

thanks, will be looking into what MBquarts' has before I decide, what size is it?

mkPOTO · 10-07-2013, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamcpap

Nice dude... glad to finally see this coming together.

thanks, i'm very excited to see how it turns out

nullrouted · 10-07-2013, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

Nice! For the sub, I'm running an Image Dynamics ID10D4 V.3. Does the job nicely. Be aware it is a SQL sub, not an SPL sub.

What kind of box is it in? Same question for OP, if you add a trunk sub, which enclosure will you use?

mkPOTO · 10-07-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nullrouted

What kind of box is it in? Same question for OP, if you add a trunk sub, which enclosure will you use?

Im either going to make a fiberglass or resin box that will fit above the amp. Not sure yet what I want to do

Something like the setup in my 5 series

italyix · 10-07-2013, 03:09 PM

So, the speaker package replaces the front stage, correct? Nice upgrade from the Hi-Fi, do you know if a similar upgrade exists for the Logic 7?

Looking forward to the review.

mkPOTO · 10-07-2013, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by italyix

So, the speaker package replaces the front stage, correct? Nice upgrade from the Hi-Fi, do you know if a similar upgrade exists for the Logic 7?

Looking forward to the review.

thanks, I believe it is suppose to work with all of them. Forgot to mention I will be RTA (real time analyzer) before and after to give you guys a idea of the changes with them.

whats77inaname · 10-07-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nullrouted

What kind of box is it in?

Musicar sub box:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=623726

nullrouted · 10-07-2013, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by italyix

So, the speaker package replaces the front stage, correct? Nice upgrade from the Hi-Fi, do you know if a similar upgrade exists for the Logic 7?

Looking forward to the review.

The EPS system doesn't really need speaker upgrades (except the underseat subs) -- The rest of the speakers perform really well, active crossovers and all. I'm in the process of doing a bass upgrade on my EPS, just got the Technic harness and LC2i, just trying to decide on a trunk sub and enclosure for it.

Sal@AUTOcouture · 10-07-2013, 05:29 PM

What's pricing on the speakers?

mkPOTO · 10-07-2013, 09:08 PM

ill have details on it tomorrow, want to ask before I can release anything

mkPOTO · 10-08-2013, 11:04 PM

Preparing for RTA testing

Anyways, We started the RTA process today using Term Lab's software. My friend who is going to do the install is a top notch audio installer and I was so excited to have him bust out his cool toys.

Here are some pictures, we did not have enough time to do a full test and will be doing it again (also will be putting the stock seat back in for testing)

Placement of Mic, we ran the cable through the rear seats, closed them and out the trunk (closed as well)

Term Lab Software Uploading, pretty cool software

RTA testing

More

Testing Mic Setup and Term Lab Software

Playing 0db Pink Noise for the test

More of Term Lab

We will be doing another test and will post results!

Miami11M3 · 10-13-2013, 05:21 PM

Price?

mkPOTO · 10-13-2013, 05:30 PM

Will have something next week, they might let me do a group buy if I can get a okay from the owners of this board

positiveions · 10-13-2013, 10:27 PM

Interesting project.
I just upgraded my headunit on my MKV Jetta; got a Kenwood Excelon double din. Now I am thinking to upgrade the speakers, and maybe add an amp. These don't look too shabby.

tmntmn · 10-14-2013, 12:50 PM

interested in the group buy!

can we use our oem amp or do we need to upgrade?

mkPOTO · 10-14-2013, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmntmn

interested in the group buy!

can we use our oem amp or do we need to upgrade?

good question, I think you would have to upgrade or piggyback off the stock one (like technic's setup)

tmntmn · 10-14-2013, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkPOTO

good question, I think you would have to upgrade or piggyback off the stock one (like technic's setup)

sounds good.. waiting for the pricing

mkPOTO · 10-22-2013, 03:30 PM

RTA testing and Results

Got a good start on the car this weekend, the first thing we did was test the speakers with stock seats in the car.

Placement of Mic

RTA of stock stereo (bass and treble turned down)

80 DB was what it read

Next test,
Balance to the left and fader to the front (driver speaker)

RTA software reading:

Balance to the Right and fader to the front (passenger side)

Pretty similar to the front driver side

Then Balance to the Left and fader to the rear (driver side rear)

Balance to the Right and fader to the rear (passenger side rear)

We also tested from the passenger side and it was very similar

Alot of noise cancelation from the stock setup

mkPOTO · 10-22-2013, 03:44 PM

Now onto preparing and mounting

Stock door with Stock Speakers

First speaker mounted, as you can see no need for bracket/spacer to install these

Placement of cables

I am very anal about cables and neatness of things, so all my cables were wrapped in TechFlex (PET sleeving) and heat shrink

Pella tape was used to keep the cables in place, I know what your thinking.. isnt pella used for homes.. well yes its very similar to dynomat for half the price

Will have more pictures later, will be buttoning up the whole system this weekend!

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mkPOTO Mr. Nice Says Hello 636 Rep 16,662 Posts Drives: BMW M3 \| X5 xdrive 35i MSport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (25) Garage List 2002 Lexus GS300 [0.00] 2008 BMW E92 M3 [5.58]	MKpoto's Audio Upgrade Hey Guys, So I wanted to make a thread about my latest project for my E92 M3. I am not a car audio expert like the many in here, but came upon a nice upgrade option that I wanted to share. One of the things that I was annoyed about was the audio that was in the E92 M3. My car is equipped with the Hi-Fi system and it does the job, but was missing what I use to have in my old 335i. (Logic 7) It was not a priority to me to upgrade as many other items came first. Also, seeing what was involved turned me off a bit and I told myself I could wait. Fast forward to a few months ago, a long time family friend started to work for MB Quart, he let me know of a direct fitment speaker set would be released by them.I was very excited to hear about this and asked him to sell me a set when they arrived. So here is what I have currently going into my car. I am not sure if I want to go with a sub in the trunk, and still debating on this. What are you guys currently running size wise in the trunk? THE GOODIES I went to MB Quart to pick up the BMW speakers and left with 2 amps and wiring kit! (ha) Current Setup ready to install MB Quart BMW Speaker Kit http://www.mbquart.com/mbquart_bmw_speakers.html MB Quart RM740.5 AMP MB Quart RM1000.1 AMP (if I decide to use a Sub in the Trunk) Rockford Fosgate 3sixty.3 (for Bluetooth streaming and as a processer) Enough talk, on to the pictures. I will have pictures of when the install begins. Unboxing Mid's Subwoofer Manual.. pretty nice how much detail is in it Last edited by mkPOTO; 10-23-2013 at 10:34 PM..
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mkPOTO Mr. Nice Says Hello 636 Rep 16,662 Posts Drives: BMW M3 \| X5 xdrive 35i MSport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (25) Garage List 2002 Lexus GS300 [0.00] 2008 BMW E92 M3 [5.58]	ill have details on it tomorrow, want to ask before I can release anything
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mkPOTO Mr. Nice Says Hello 636 Rep 16,662 Posts Drives: BMW M3 \| X5 xdrive 35i MSport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (25) Garage List 2002 Lexus GS300 [0.00] 2008 BMW E92 M3 [5.58]	Preparing for RTA testing Anyways, We started the RTA process today using Term Lab's software. My friend who is going to do the install is a top notch audio installer and I was so excited to have him bust out his cool toys. Here are some pictures, we did not have enough time to do a full test and will be doing it again (also will be putting the stock seat back in for testing) Placement of Mic, we ran the cable through the rear seats, closed them and out the trunk (closed as well) Term Lab Software Uploading, pretty cool software RTA testing More Testing Mic Setup and Term Lab Software Playing 0db Pink Noise for the test More of Term Lab We will be doing another test and will post results! Last edited by mkPOTO; 10-23-2013 at 10:35 PM..
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mkPOTO Mr. Nice Says Hello 636 Rep 16,662 Posts Drives: BMW M3 \| X5 xdrive 35i MSport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (25) Garage List 2002 Lexus GS300 [0.00] 2008 BMW E92 M3 [5.58]	Will have something next week, they might let me do a group buy if I can get a okay from the owners of this board
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mkPOTO Mr. Nice Says Hello 636 Rep 16,662 Posts Drives: BMW M3 \| X5 xdrive 35i MSport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (25) Garage List 2002 Lexus GS300 [0.00] 2008 BMW E92 M3 [5.58]	RTA testing and Results Got a good start on the car this weekend, the first thing we did was test the speakers with stock seats in the car. Placement of Mic RTA of stock stereo (bass and treble turned down) 80 DB was what it read Next test, Balance to the left and fader to the front (driver speaker) RTA software reading: Balance to the Right and fader to the front (passenger side) Pretty similar to the front driver side Then Balance to the Left and fader to the rear (driver side rear) Balance to the Right and fader to the rear (passenger side rear) We also tested from the passenger side and it was very similar Alot of noise cancelation from the stock setup Last edited by mkPOTO; 10-23-2013 at 10:36 PM..
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mkPOTO Mr. Nice Says Hello 636 Rep 16,662 Posts Drives: BMW M3 \| X5 xdrive 35i MSport Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (25) Garage List 2002 Lexus GS300 [0.00] 2008 BMW E92 M3 [5.58]	Now onto preparing and mounting Stock door with Stock Speakers First speaker mounted, as you can see no need for bracket/spacer to install these Placement of cables I am very anal about cables and neatness of things, so all my cables were wrapped in TechFlex (PET sleeving) and heat shrink Pella tape was used to keep the cables in place, I know what your thinking.. isnt pella used for homes.. well yes its very similar to dynomat for half the price Will have more pictures later, will be buttoning up the whole system this weekend! Last edited by mkPOTO; 10-23-2013 at 10:37 PM..
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