What is this and Is it street Legal??

O-cha · 08-01-2009, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blklacker

The rulz of the forum are very clear cannot post kill stories

Right because part of the forum rules includes no lying.

shift330 · 08-01-2009, 06:45 PM

587 posts.....you'd think you would know this doesn't belong in the General BMW section eh?.....

jeremyc74 · 08-01-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shift330

587 posts.....you'd think you would know this doesn't belong in the General BMW section eh?.....

Pic was taken from a BMW.....

FStop7 · 08-01-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blklacker

U have no idea what your talking about..

You didn't even know what kind of car it was and he's the clueless one?

oneintheory · 08-01-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

IIRC it gets tagged as a kit car. The rules you're talking about aren't to make a vehicle "street legal" they're to make it legal for a manufacturer to sell in the US as a production car. I think they get around that by shipping the car into the US with no engine in it, selling it as a kit, and then you pay the dealer to install the engine. It wouldn't surprise me to see the government close this loophole up in the near future, so get 'em while they're hot!

I'd LOVE to have one personally.

IIRC, it's classified as a motorcycle, but don't quote me on that.

Spaceman Spiff · 08-01-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneintheory

IIRC, it's classified as a motorcycle, but don't quote me on that.

At least in CA that's not the case. SB-100 in CA DMV code allows for registration of 500 "specially constructed" cars every year and Ariel Atoms are registered as specially constructed vehicles since they are kit cars as someone mentioned earlier.

Scorpion · 08-01-2009, 08:33 PM

Driving one of those would be so awesome.

blklacker · 08-01-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FStop7

You didn't even know what kind of car it was and he's the clueless one?

That's why I'm asking... BTW what does not knowing what type of car have to do with spirited driving?? : )

blklacker · 08-01-2009, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O-cha

Right because part of the forum rules includes no lying.

Now I'm being accused of lying?? this is great you don't even know the story? craziness

335iheLLraiseR · 08-02-2009, 12:18 AM

So how much do they go for?

Spaceman Spiff · 08-02-2009, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

So how much do they go for?

Depending on model, year and condition, I have seen them from $40K-80K+.

Edit:

For US: http://www.arielatom.com/

The current base price is $65K

Inspired · 08-02-2009, 01:46 AM

lol, here comes a bmw fan boy think his 135i is the fastest car in the world that can take one of the fastest car or motorcycle out there..

addicted2drums · 08-02-2009, 01:59 AM

the atom is a sweet car. you shoulda stopped him and asked to take it for a spin.

Mark M · 08-02-2009, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blklacker

LOL serious dude 2 in your neighborhood.... what kinda of street do you live off of... whats the chances of that???

Believe it or not, in my development we have two E30 M3s. Mine and a neighbor a few blocks away. Which I find very unusual because I live in a small town, population less than 3000.

jeremyc74 · 08-02-2009, 09:41 AM

They've got a version coming up that's going to have a 500Hp V8 in it. The thing is probably going to be able to bend time.

Of course it seems to me that it's already VERY traction limited, so I'm not sure how much it's actually going to do for the performance. Imagine what one of the beasts would be like if it were AWD!

oneintheory · 08-02-2009, 12:53 PM

How about we create a list of people who would like to have this "kill story" pm'ed to them?

The Cthulhu · 08-02-2009, 04:13 PM

-1

How about you save up your money and buy a weekend car. My 135i is nice and fast, and I love it... but it's no Lotus or Atom. Get real!

jeremyc74 · 08-02-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Cthulhu

-1

How about you save up your money and buy a weekend car. My 135i is nice and fast, and I love it... but it's no Lotus or Atom. Get real!

I wouldn't put the Lotus in the same catagory as the Atom. A tuned x35i will most certainly kill a Lotus on the street, but neither one of them is going to touch an Atom.

The Cthulhu · 08-04-2009, 07:07 AM

[shakes head]

If you can tune the 135i, then you're allowed to tune the Lotus. Running a smaller pulley, a Charliex tune, and a cup GT3 airbox on an Exige = kills most things.

I would say Lotii, Caterhams, Atoms, and Nobles are all in the category of lightweight, street legal racecars. There are benefits to having a heavier car, but track times are not one of them. Arguing that racecars are not faster than luxury sports cars is like arguing the evidence for creationism. Look at stock for stock track times for a Lotus Exige, and then for a 135i.

If you want cup holders, a good sound system, sound deadening material, a sturdy and safe chassis (although the Lotus tub is nice for weighing 160 lbs), a cushy suspension, and seating capacity, your car will need all the HP in the world to go faster than a proper track car in a straight line. If you have a heavier car, it will never, ever corner as well. That is the sad reality.

Why do you think so many people autox miatas instead of tuned escalades?

epbrown · 08-04-2009, 07:47 AM

I saw one of these parked on the street here in Chicago last week:

sisbak1999 · 08-04-2009, 12:16 PM

Does it come w/ the type R badge????

Inspired · 08-04-2009, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Cthulhu

[shakes head]

If you can tune the 135i, then you're allowed to tune the Lotus. Running a smaller pulley, a Charliex tune, and a cup GT3 airbox on an Exige = kills most things.

I would say Lotii, Caterhams, Atoms, and Nobles are all in the category of lightweight, street legal racecars. There are benefits to having a heavier car, but track times are not one of them. Arguing that racecars are not faster than luxury sports cars is like arguing the evidence for creationism. Look at stock for stock track times for a Lotus Exige, and then for a 135i.

If you want cup holders, a good sound system, sound deadening material, a sturdy and safe chassis (although the Lotus tub is nice for weighing 160 lbs), a cushy suspension, and seating capacity, your car will need all the HP in the world to go faster than a proper track car in a straight line. If you have a heavier car, it will never, ever corner as well. That is the sad reality.

Why do you think so many people autox miatas instead of tuned escalades?

08-01-2009, 06:45 PM	#24
shift330 Blue Force Tracker 124 Rep 1,372 Posts Drives: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ iTrader: (6) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	587 posts.....you'd think you would know this doesn't belong in the General BMW section eh?..... __________________ Stay safe 855th MP Company! Hosmer/Espinoza you're my boys!!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-01-2009, 08:33 PM	#29
Scorpion Major 162 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: Nothing Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nowhere iTrader: (0)	Driving one of those would be so awesome.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-02-2009, 01:46 AM	#34
Inspired Colonel 148 Rep 2,368 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California iTrader: (2)	lol, here comes a bmw fan boy think his 135i is the fastest car in the world that can take one of the fastest car or motorcycle out there..
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-02-2009, 01:59 AM	#35
addicted2drums Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 220 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California iTrader: (1)	the atom is a sweet car. you shoulda stopped him and asked to take it for a spin. __________________ "No matter what side of the argument you are on, you always find people on your side you wish were on the other." - Jascha Heifetz
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-02-2009, 09:41 AM	#37
jeremyc74 Banned 76 Rep 5,970 Posts Drives: '08 135i Montego/Terra Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Evansville, IN iTrader: (0)	They've got a version coming up that's going to have a 500Hp V8 in it. The thing is probably going to be able to bend time. Of course it seems to me that it's already VERY traction limited, so I'm not sure how much it's actually going to do for the performance. Imagine what one of the beasts would be like if it were AWD!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-02-2009, 12:53 PM	#38
oneintheory no longer a BMW owner 152 Rep 1,463 Posts Drives: 2011 Ford Edge Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Suffolk/Chesapeake, VA iTrader: (0)	How about we create a list of people who would like to have this "kill story" pm'ed to them?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-02-2009, 04:13 PM	#39
The Cthulhu Banned 7 Rep 197 Posts Drives: N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: N/A iTrader: (0)	-1 How about you save up your money and buy a weekend car. My 135i is nice and fast, and I love it... but it's no Lotus or Atom. Get real!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-04-2009, 07:07 AM	#41
The Cthulhu Banned 7 Rep 197 Posts Drives: N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: N/A iTrader: (0)	[shakes head] If you can tune the 135i, then you're allowed to tune the Lotus. Running a smaller pulley, a Charliex tune, and a cup GT3 airbox on an Exige = kills most things. I would say Lotii, Caterhams, Atoms, and Nobles are all in the category of lightweight, street legal racecars. There are benefits to having a heavier car, but track times are not one of them. Arguing that racecars are not faster than luxury sports cars is like arguing the evidence for creationism. Look at stock for stock track times for a Lotus Exige, and then for a 135i. If you want cup holders, a good sound system, sound deadening material, a sturdy and safe chassis (although the Lotus tub is nice for weighing 160 lbs), a cushy suspension, and seating capacity, your car will need all the HP in the world to go faster than a proper track car in a straight line. If you have a heavier car, it will never, ever corner as well. That is the sad reality. Why do you think so many people autox miatas instead of tuned escalades?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-04-2009, 07:47 AM	#42
epbrown Colonel 60 Rep 2,128 Posts Drives: BMW M Coupe, Porsche Boxster S Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	I saw one of these parked on the street here in Chicago last week:
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-04-2009, 12:16 PM	#43
sisbak1999 New Member 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: WRX/ coming soon 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamilton, Ga iTrader: (0)	Does it come w/ the type R badge????
	Appreciate 0 Quote