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I have contacted Alex at Gintani to see if that date works for him. Alex/Jeremy, please let me know.
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So, lets recap all 12 pages of this thread (17 if you count the original thread too) to date into a nice short one that everyone can read in less than the 3 days it would take to sift through all the garbage.
- Gintani customer posts a dyno chart showing that his new OE tune got 28 HP more than his previous tune. - Previous tune turns out to be from Powerchip. - Powerchip says the dyno charts were manipulated to show the gains posted. - Other parties jump in and say the charts had to have been doctored because the gains are too linear across the RPM band. - Powerchip offers to refund customer for Powerchip tune if an independent dyno shows that the gains over the Powerchip tune are true. - 8 more pages of rants by both sides basically saying the same crap over and over but no response from OE or Gintani - Gintani finally responds saying they didn't do anything shady. - Powerchip visits Gintani to prove how the dyno could be manipulated. - Gintani not happy. - 2 more pages of pointless arguing. - The customer and 2 tuners finally agree to get it on at an independent site. Scheduling shootout for next Friday. Everybody got that
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I have spoken with the OP and he has agreed that no one is allowed to plug into his OBD port or touch his ECU until the baseline dyno pulls are made with the current tune installed. Thank you Mike
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04-01-2011, 08:48 PM | #246 |
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why should Gintani have any say at all over what the OP does to his car ? The OP wants the dyno test , so how can Gintani stop it ?
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Because he needs Gintani to flash it back after the PC tune gets loaded unless he plans to keep the PC tune. PC did offer to buy the OE flash so they could load both files without Ginatani's participation earlier in the thread when Gintani was still quiet.
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04-01-2011, 09:47 PM | #248 |
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I really didn't expect a true test would ever go down. Someone always has some sort of excuse. Well... Let's just hope I'm wrong and it does...
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04-01-2011, 09:49 PM | #249 |
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If I were Gintani and had nothing to hide I would be all over this shootout. The not enough time excuse is very telling IMO. There is always enough time when protecting the reputation/goodwill of your business is at stake.
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Your not wrong and it won't. Someone please make me eat my words... Please
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04-01-2011, 10:48 PM | #252 | |
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Seems unrealistic that a company like Power Chip could be upstaged to that degree by an ex-employee tinkering with their own tune. Custom tune versus standard tune argument notwithstanding, it's not at all logical. According to this thread and others, Powerchip is a company with engineers and employees and a distribution network. OE is ALLEGEDLY one ex-employee of PC working out of Gintani's shop. I have absolutely no stake either way as I don't own either company's products. I've met Alex and he was a real hospitable guy with a lot of passion for his work. I liked him and his operation. I think we may simply be experiencing growing pains of a small business.
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You are correct, that OE Tuning is a one man operation and the head is an ex Powerchip employee. Powerchip does have a wide distribution network with a number of highly qualified and specialized engineers. I wanted to give Gintani/OE the opportunity to be there on Friday - however - based on the latest evolution of this thread, we may proceed without them to verify the results. James - will talk to you early next week for the final arrangements. I have a third party dyno operator that is willing to host the event.
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cause mfest is a pretty big damn event... lots of cars need to be readied etc but this is all my theory though..
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Who do you think is going to be at Mfest anyway, people who DONT know about this?
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After reading this entire thread, all I can say is that this situation needs to be resolved ASAP, regardless of MFest... It is in the best interest of all vendors to resolve issues before facing potential customers at MFest.
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I was at Gintani today having Raz help me package my MXP exhaust. These guys are seriously up to their elbows in paying jobs right now. They're actually working on pushing two big projects out in the next couple days.
I suspect that Jeremy will be willing to participate once MFest is finished. On another note, I no longer have a car that can benefit from Gintani or OE's services, but that didn't stop Alex from ordering lunch for me, or stop Raz from helping me package that pain in the ass of an exhaust. Call me a fanboy, or Gintani puppet, but to me that is excellent service. Cheers
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