Frozen Gray M3 U.S. Owners Warned About Matte Paint

jeanchristophele · 07-12-2010, 08:49 AM

just buy an M3 and wrap it with matte silver (assuming they make it... i know they have black, red and white so far)

JoeyBananaz18 · 07-12-2010, 09:31 AM

iv read this thread and the article on bimmerfile and i sounds like they are making BMW out to be the bad guys. this color is not exclusive to the NA market, but the disclaimer is. i think this precaution was done for the same reason we didnt get the rear fog-light switch. We didnt get the switch because BMW didnt think the average NA driver would know how to operate and use it correctly. Same can be said about the paint. They are now making us sign this disclaimer because some idiot is going to go out there with his/hers brand new FG M3 (that they had to drop an extra 5K on) and start waxing it. Then they're gonna complain about how they now own a SG M3 and how they're out 5K. I say good call on BMW's part. Anyone ever see the Top Gear review for the CSL? Clarkson said that buyers needed to sign a disclaimer because of the semi-slick tires. Not the first time they've done this. its just a business looking out for themselves, while still giving the customer exactly what they want.

GOLFFRR · 07-12-2010, 09:41 AM

the guy who bought one from us plans on never driving it. he has a huge collections of cars and a lot of M's. I think like most of you have stated if you are buying this as a daily driver car your going to regret it sooner then later. If you must have the vinyl look your better off just getting your car wrapped, that way you can go back once you get tired of it. IMO

Oulixes · 07-12-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

the guy who bought one from us plans on never driving it. he has a huge collections of cars and a lot of M's. I think like most of you have stated if you are buying this as a daily driver car your going to regret it sooner then later. If you must have the vinyl look your better off just getting your car wrapped, that way you can go back once you get tired of it. IMO

+1, the paint makes the car more exclusive and its fragility will protect the car from being driven daily. It is suitable for people who collect cars and keep them in pristine condition for car enthusiasts to admire.

cotmfk · 07-12-2010, 11:00 AM

Bird poo.

leeor · 07-12-2010, 11:18 AM

wopa!! make $$$

positiveions · 07-12-2010, 11:41 AM

no thanks. you can keep your FG

OC Dealman · 07-12-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 2045

this should be common sense on the matt paint. no big deal.

+1!!!!
I did a lot of research on this before I decided to pull the trigger. The paint is protected just like a normal paint job. They give you the waiver to sign because inevitably, there is some dumbass out there that does nothing to protect there car, never washes it properly, leaves tar and droppings and all such all over the car, and that stuff WILL mess this paint up, so if you treat this like normal paint then, it will loss the effect. If you treat it somewhat more careful, then you will be fine. That is what makes it special and that is why there are not or never will be a 1,000 of these being driven around.
It is a special paint, and if you are too lazy to take care of it, then do not get it. Pretty simple.

luckistryke · 07-12-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by teleopti

No. think about it. who the hell would carry the frozen paint color let alone no wtf to do with it

I know for a fact my neighbor here at my work does all of East Bay BMW's paint related gigs and BMW then mark it up to their customers

bavarian19 · 07-12-2010, 01:23 PM

too much hassle

tightie · 07-12-2010, 02:40 PM

waste.

Evolution_GT · 07-12-2010, 02:54 PM

I'd be afraid to wash this car... or drive it....

ase2dais · 07-12-2010, 03:14 PM

thats the best warning I've heard so far...
I staying away from this FG.. too much hassle and I dont believe people pay money for a clear coat they didnt get and get inconvenience for it.

eclipsisNA · 07-12-2010, 03:17 PM

I don't see any technical reason why people can't apply wax. Sure, wax will give the paint a minor increase in gloss, but it's not permanent like a polishing.

Krozi · 07-12-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackRat

This "frozen finish" sounds more like a bad batch of clear coat that BMW is trying to get rid of at a premium price to unsuspecting consumers?

Please for the love of God tell me that was a joke.

gthirtyfizle · 07-12-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Krozi

Please for the love of God tell me that was a joke.

+100000000000000
Must be........Right?

HermesRider · 07-12-2010, 09:06 PM

I think the finish is similar to the white aluminum (matte) finish on my BMW K1200r. With any wash products, it has gradually turned glossy over 3 years. Funny, the best thing that restores the matte quality is using Windex

johnL · 07-13-2010, 12:11 AM

Out of curiosity, any members here with FG ordered?

martinmartin · 07-13-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by johnL

Out of curiosity, any members here with FG ordered?

I do and I believe OC Dealman does as well.

I'll be honest, the paint maintenance/repair does make me a bit nervous.

If only we could put a clear bra on the front...

ponch_ki · 07-13-2010, 03:01 AM

Wrap it?

ROFL

jettdt · 07-13-2010, 03:25 AM

I have a FG M3 purchased in the UK, I did not have to sign a waiver at all, I must say what they are asking you to do is just good car care nothing outlandish. The only dofferance is not to wax it.

I have owned a lot of BMW's and a C63 merc, all of them suffer if you leave bugs or bird lime on the paint, bird lime can eat through shinny clearcoat just as quick and will destroy the finish on any car if not removed quickly.

I have not had it long so not sure how it will hold up, but if anything at the moment it seems more durable than my C63 that scratched up in no time with my cat sleeping on the bonnet and kids brushiong past it.

Norsk · 07-13-2010, 08:47 AM

Such a sweet paint job ... but ouff on the maintenance.

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JoeyBananaz18 Brigadier General 398 Rep 4,084 Posts Drives: metrocard Join Date: May 2009 Location: Whitestone, NY iTrader: (3)	iv read this thread and the article on bimmerfile and i sounds like they are making BMW out to be the bad guys. this color is not exclusive to the NA market, but the disclaimer is. i think this precaution was done for the same reason we didnt get the rear fog-light switch. We didnt get the switch because BMW didnt think the average NA driver would know how to operate and use it correctly. Same can be said about the paint. They are now making us sign this disclaimer because some idiot is going to go out there with his/hers brand new FG M3 (that they had to drop an extra 5K on) and start waxing it. Then they're gonna complain about how they now own a SG M3 and how they're out 5K. I say good call on BMW's part. Anyone ever see the Top Gear review for the CSL? Clarkson said that buyers needed to sign a disclaimer because of the semi-slick tires. Not the first time they've done this. its just a business looking out for themselves, while still giving the customer exactly what they want. __________________ 7/18/09- I pick up my baby- 2009 E92 335i Xdrive, Space Gray over Coral Red. Premium Pkg, Cold Weather Pkg, M-Sport Pkg, 193Ms, Gloss Black grills, Custom Gloss Black Mirrors, Performance shift and E-brake boot, M3 spoiler, Euro fog switch, gloss black interior tim, Coco-Mats (red/black), H&R coilovers, 19'' Alufelgen SF-71s......
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07-13-2010, 12:11 AM	#62
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07-13-2010, 03:25 AM	#65
jettdt Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: frozen grey m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: uk iTrader: (0)	I have a FG M3 purchased in the UK, I did not have to sign a waiver at all, I must say what they are asking you to do is just good car care nothing outlandish. The only dofferance is not to wax it. I have owned a lot of BMW's and a C63 merc, all of them suffer if you leave bugs or bird lime on the paint, bird lime can eat through shinny clearcoat just as quick and will destroy the finish on any car if not removed quickly. I have not had it long so not sure how it will hold up, but if anything at the moment it seems more durable than my C63 that scratched up in no time with my cat sleeping on the bonnet and kids brushiong past it.
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