M3 versus Hyundai Genesis

[tommartin]

Been thinking about this for a couple of days, ever since I last saw a commercial for the Genesis where they keep touting its 0 to 60 rate. I know the Genesis comes with a V8, but I think the M3 would still thrash it. Would like to see this upstart lux/performance car go against an established competitor since I think the plan is to spin Genesis off into its own luxury brand.






Pretty sure I know the answer, but has anyone out there driven a Genesis?

[GTM]

You mean Sedan? or Coupe? Coupe is not avail with V8.


But no matter what...
I drove both Genesis Coupe and Sedan...
Far from being "sporty" and "luxurious" as M3.

The both car cost fractions of M3.....so cant even compare much.

[donnynsc]

Tell me you are not serious about this comparison, are you?

[96OCTNE]

That's the Genesis Coupe you have pictured and it's only available in either a 2.0 Turbo 4-cylinder or 3.8 V6. The 0-60 times are nowhere near the M3, unless of course you upgrade the engines! I believe the Genesis Coupe 2.0 turbo is the same engine as the Mitsu-Evo. The G-coupe guys have been getting some crazy numbers with their aftermarket mods. I think you get a lot for your money (brembos, LSD, etc) stock, but I wouldn't give up my M3, nothing against the hyundai/genesis brand, just love my car too much.

I actually drove a red 2.0T track last weekend. The car has a delayed shift between 2nd and 3rd, and when you floor it in 2nd or 3rd can't remember, it takes a while for the car to speed up, then again I'm used to 414hp. Other than that the car was smooth. If you have passengers in the back seat taller than 5'7 their heads will hit the roof. Everything else was pretty nice. If you're considering it, there's a huge aftermarket following. hope that helped.

[tommartin]

@960 Thanks for all of the info!

I've heard a lot of good things about the Genesis, and the commercials just got me thinking. Will be interesting if the brand does get spun off to a smaller niche, luxury/performance brand. Let's face it, the M3 blows it out of the water, but I do think its cool how hard the Genesis is trying.

[johnhk79]

Genesis is a better bang for your buck. It can be made faster and the girls dig it. From a certain angle, it looks better than an Endo.. i mean, Enzo.

[endofanera7]

Originally Posted by johnhk79

Genesis is a better bang for your buck. It can be made faster and the girls dig it. From a certain angle, it looks better than an Endo.. i mean, Enzo.

wat

[johnhk79]

Originally Posted by endofanera7

wat

talking about your future car here

[GTM]

There are huge marketing hype on Geneis Coupe, esp on 2.0T...


The blocks are same as Lancer RallyArt.
Those block will not support much HP as EVO.

Also stock turbos are really small to make significant power.
We drove it, it felt like 150hp car.
To make this car as fast as 370Z around track, I can see at least $10k invested on the car to be same par lap time....

There are also clutch delay valve, ESP kicks in super fast...
If you drive it, you definitly feel that this is NO SPORTS CAR by any means.

Doesn't have that wooomp! from similar powered turbo engines like VW's 2.0T and ect.


We are very disappointed by powerlevel of 2.0T, other than that we liked overall package.

[Chris_S]

I've test driven the Genesis sedan w/ the V8, and I was VERY impressed. It's not intended to compete w/ the M3, and would be a poor substitute for one. It seems like a good alternative to a big Lexus sedan, though.

[Genro757]

Ummm....hello??!??!?!!?....IT'S A HYUNDAI!!!???

[ConceptVBS]

Originally Posted by Genro757

Ummm....hello??!??!?!!?....IT'S A HYUNDAI!!!???

And I'm Japanese.

[tommartin]

@johnhk79

I'm not sure if I agree that it looks better than an Enzo. Ferraris have such distinctive styling in my opinion, and looking at a Genesis the styling doesn't say individual to me as nice as it is.

@genro757
lol.

[GreenwichM3]

Originally Posted by tommartin

Been thinking about this for a couple of days, ever since I last saw a commercial for the Genesis where they keep touting its 0 to 60 rate. I know the Genesis comes with a V8, but I think the M3 would still thrash it. Would like to see this upstart lux/performance car go against an established competitor since I think the plan is to spin Genesis off into its own luxury brand.






Pretty sure I know the answer, but has anyone out there driven a Genesis?

ok... Genesis is a 6 cylinder, and only traps at 99. The m3 traps almost 112. it wouldn't even be close. Even an e46 m3 could take it down.

[Genro757]

Ummm...and I'm Filipino...so I guess that makes you my nemesis...

Originally Posted by ConceptVBS

And I'm Japanese.

[spearfisher]

????????

[Genro757]

...And some people say cucumbers taste better pickled!

[davedave]

Brembo is overkill on this car. it just a 200hp car. Even our car don't have Brembo

[tommartin]

@Genro and LV
Uh oh, thems be fighting words.

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[camcar33]

1.) Its a hyundai
2.) Its slower
3.) Its not as nice
4.) It looks boring
5.) It deffinitely is not a pussy magnet
6.) ITS A HYUNDAI

[tommartin]

Originally Posted by camcar33

1.) Its a hyundai
2.) Its slower
3.) Its not as nice
4.) It looks boring
5.) It deffinitely is not a pussy magnet
6.) ITS A HYUNDAI

HAHA.

[bruce.augenstein@comcast.]

Originally Posted by camcar33

1.) Its a hyundai
2.) Its slower
3.) Its not as nice
4.) It looks boring
5.) It deffinitely is not a pussy magnet
6.) ITS A HYUNDAI

You might want to strike reasons one and six. For the last few years, Hyundai has been building some pretty damned good cars, and astoundingly good cars for the money. Compared with their direct competitors, they don't make a loser in any category.

And in fact, those of us who don't care a bunch about precious image might even take a close look at that $42K Genesis V8 sedan in favor of a 7 series or S-class. The $50K saved would go far to assuage the Dow Jones blues.