Is there a Vorsteiner Lip Replica yet?

chompino · 11-06-2008, 01:54 PM

The real deal is the only way to go.

Sedan_Clan · 11-06-2008, 03:44 PM

I'm all for a well done replica part!! I don't see any reason to spend $1600 on a part that will meet some debris on the freeway, and ultimately be useless to me. It is far easier for me to part with a $300 lip than it is to part with a lip that costs double what my ///M3 payment is. I plan on painting the lip anyway, so I'd rather not opt for carbon fiber. As long as fitment is good, I'll opt for a replica lip made of another material.

When it comes to wheels, however, I'll stick with OEM, Klassen or BBS.

Speedtrap,

The replica looks well constructed, and would be worth saving a few hundred dollars. That company did a good job.

JMD0977 · 11-08-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oshin02

I will have to agree upon Taiwanese parts are horrible parts to put on these greatly engineered cars. But I will also agree upon the fact that its still not worth paying $1000+ for a so called carbon fiber lip which is backed with 75% fiberglass as Voerstiener does We need some Co with real balls to offer full carbon fiber parts. Not make them like the Taiwanese do and put a huge price tag on them.

-Oshin P.

There are others but they also charge more that twice than Vorsteiner. No matter what, I think Vorsteiner is the best option at the moment with the best looks, fitment and quality for the money. I though of Ericsson (I know its a full bumper) but it 6k or 2k FPR, AC SCHNITZER is about 2k-3k just diffuser/lip, most of the others are just plastic. You get what you pay for. I know modding gets addictive but those who have leases shouldn't cuz no matter what, sooner of later you will lose money, unless money its not a problem, but then again, if money wasnt an issue, this thread wounld exist. But at the same time I agree that Vorteiner and other companies should consider making products of different materials to address the needs of different people ex. someone might just want to paint it, so CF is not nessesary. Ofcourse if they want CF they wont be able to get cheap CF unless they want bubbles too. I cant imagine going somewhere and having bubbles in CF parts on a 70k-80k car

Technic · 11-10-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by endofanera7

$900 shipped? ridiculous! Add another $300 you get a genuine piece!

It will only makes sense at the $300 - 400 price range IMO! Like the Hamann Rep.

Damn skippy... and that's $400 shipped, dammit!

RED///M3 · 11-10-2008, 10:50 AM

I spoke with the seller on ebay he said he will only give free shipping but he's not willing to budge on the price lol

Vorsteiner · 11-10-2008, 11:32 AM

Our attorneys are in the process of contacing this vendor and the original manufacturer in regards to the copyrights & intellectual property violation.

For a list of Authorized Vorsteiner Dealers & Original Vorsteiner products please contact us at 1-800-601-7615 or info@vorsteiner.com

Thank you for your all of your support & patronage and we hope to continue to provide the highest quality parts & service to the BMW community and members.

Best Regards,

VORSTEINER
[Perfection Redefined: Exclusive Vehicle Tuning ]
tel: 800.601.7615
tel: 714.974.4300
fax: 714.974.4315
web: www.vorsteiner.com

Blake · 11-10-2008, 11:51 AM

^^ good luck with that. you bust one, 3 more will sprout up overnight. by no means am i siding with the replica vendor, but it's just the nature of the beast unfortunately. i can attest to vorsteiner quality, i have the full CF diffuser, it fit like a glove and has held up to tremendous amounts of heat. buying replicas on ebay can be shady at best...caveat emptor is what i always tell anyone!

Saturn · 11-10-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vorsteiner

Our attorneys are in the process of contacing this vendor and the original manufacturer in regards to the copyrights & intellectual property violation.

For a list of Authorized Vorsteiner Dealers & Original Vorsteiner products please contact us at 1-800-601-7615 or info@vorsteiner.com

Thank you for your all of your support & patronage and we hope to continue to provide the highest quality parts & service to the BMW community and members.

Best Regards,

VORSTEINER
[Perfection Redefined: Exclusive Vehicle Tuning ]
tel: 800.601.7615
tel: 714.974.4300
fax: 714.974.4315
web: www.vorsteiner.com

You are very quick to address the emergence of replicas to your parts (as you should be) but you are slightly slower on the draw when it comes to the concerns of your customer base which eventually lead to the creation of a market for such replicas.

I put it to you again:

Why the markup between 335 and M3 aero parts of identical construction and fitment?

Blake · 11-10-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saturn

Why the markup between 335 and M3 aero parts of identical construction and fitment?

2 words: ///M badge

sad but true

ihyln · 11-10-2008, 12:07 PM

I was looking to get a diffuser but for something that is all show I had to balk at the prices and say no way.

ACZakka325i · 11-10-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorsteiner

Our attorneys are in the process of contacing this vendor and the original manufacturer in regards to the copyrights & intellectual property violation.

For a list of Authorized Vorsteiner Dealers & Original Vorsteiner products please contact us at 1-800-601-7615 or info@vorsteiner.com

Thank you for your all of your support & patronage and we hope to continue to provide the highest quality parts & service to the BMW community and members.

Best Regards,

VORSTEINER
[Perfection Redefined: Exclusive Vehicle Tuning ]
tel: 800.601.7615
tel: 714.974.4300
fax: 714.974.4315
web: www.vorsteiner.com

I haven't gotten one constructive response from you guys yet in this thread. Will you produce less expensive lips made from cheaper materials? Or just bang others over the head for producing products we want? YOU SIR, FAIL.

badfish · 11-10-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakepilot

2 words: ///M badge

sad but true

There are a lot more 335s than there are M3s. When you can sell a lot more of a product, it will more easily offset the initial production costs. A good example is my NSX, the production run was extremely low. So things like aftermarket headlamp kits are very rare and expensive. Or even the OEM headlamp costs over $2000 as opposed to a more complex headlamp assembly for any other Honda or Acura which is just in the hundreds. We've been trying to get someone make a better tail lamp assembly but no one will touch it because the small market for the product will force them to sell the lamps at a prohibitive cost due to the high costs of initiating production.

!Xoible · 11-10-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

I haven't gotten one constructive response from you guys yet in this thread. Will you produce less expensive lips made from cheaper materials? Or just bang others over the head for producing products we want? YOU SIR, FAIL.

lol seriously! might be cheaper for them to lower the ridiculous price of their parts than try to get their lawyers chase people in taiwan!! lol

ACZakka325i · 11-10-2008, 01:56 PM

AHH now I know why their parts are so expensive. They have a team of attorneys on salary.

Don't really see how you're gonna be able to nail any replica vendor on anything here. But, whats also funny is that it took me to bring it to your attention. Talk about poor PR.

If I were you, to satisfy the many consumers on this board, I would have maybe offered a group buy, or something else besides these measures you've taken. I'm not saying you're in the wrong, but you've really left a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention that this statement about your lawyers is almost laughable.

You wont see a dime from me unless you get your priorities straight.

Bluesummer · 11-10-2008, 02:58 PM

sponsor my next 3 cars with all possible product from you and i promise to get that guy's ass in taiwan for you guys. I am serious btw.

________
thai property in Pattaya

!Xoible · 11-10-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

AHH now I know why their parts are so expensive. They have a team of attorneys on salary.

Don't really see how you're gonna be able to nail any replica vendor on anything here. But, whats also funny is that it took me to bring it to your attention. Talk about poor PR.

If I were you, to satisfy the many consumers on this board, I would have maybe offered a group buy, or something else besides these measures you've taken. I'm not saying you're in the wrong, but you've really left a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention that this statement about your lawyers is almost laughable.

You wont see a dime from me unless you get your priorities straight.

any vendor that charges me money leaves a bitter taste in my mouth

Speedtrap · 11-10-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RED///M3

I spoke with the seller on ebay he said he will only give free shipping but he's not willing to budge on the price lol

Volume speaks louder?

Jso · 11-10-2008, 04:36 PM

i may be wrong, but didn't vorsteiner start off by making replica e46 csl parts?

Speedtrap · 11-10-2008, 04:45 PM

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/104743...ct_by_mmpower/

They did

as seen from this

Front and Rear...

Bluesummer · 11-10-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorsteiner

Our attorneys are in the process of contacing this vendor and the original manufacturer in regards to the copyrights & intellectual property violation.

For a list of Authorized Vorsteiner Dealers & Original Vorsteiner products please contact us at 1-800-601-7615 or info@vorsteiner.com

Thank you for your all of your support & patronage and we hope to continue to provide the highest quality parts & service to the BMW community and members.

Best Regards,

VORSTEINER
[Perfection Redefined: Exclusive Vehicle Tuning ]
tel: 800.601.7615
tel: 714.974.4300
fax: 714.974.4315
web: www.vorsteiner.com

GL with that. Maybe you should consult with some other name brands like Hamann for example or even BMW. LOL
________
Web shows

Blake · 11-10-2008, 05:55 PM

this has turned into quite a vorsteiner bashing thread

dvpouldar26 · 11-10-2008, 05:55 PM

Vorsteiner is having this same problem with a replica of their e92 bootlid spoiler. They are trying to stop production of the product when the vendor is in a country like taiwan, that might not have copyright laws. The confusing part is that Vorsteiner got its claim to fame by making replica CSL parts (10% differnece from OEM parts because of materials and construction). The only way that these vendors in taiwan can make successful replicas is if they make small changes in the design or production of the parts. Sure, replicas would bring Vorsteiners prices, and exclusivity down, but that is how many aftermarket companies are started and how theyre is innovation in these products. It is said that these replica spoliers have better fitment than the authentic Vorsteiner ones. I'm not siding with the replica vendors, and love the Vorsteiners products, but some enthusiasts want a nice part, but cannot afford the price of Vorsteiner products. I hope this problem gets sorted out soon.

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Sedan_Clan Law Enforcer 24979 Rep 22,266 Posts Drives: '22 Chalk Gray Porsche C2S Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ..in your rearview!!! iTrader: (26)	I'm all for a well done replica part!! I don't see any reason to spend $1600 on a part that will meet some debris on the freeway, and ultimately be useless to me. It is far easier for me to part with a $300 lip than it is to part with a lip that costs double what my ///M3 payment is. I plan on painting the lip anyway, so I'd rather not opt for carbon fiber. As long as fitment is good, I'll opt for a replica lip made of another material. When it comes to wheels, however, I'll stick with OEM, Klassen or BBS. Speedtrap, The replica looks well constructed, and would be worth saving a few hundred dollars. That company did a good job.
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Vorsteiner Private First Class 171 Rep 158 Posts Drives: M3, M4, M5, M6 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA iTrader: (0)	Our attorneys are in the process of contacing this vendor and the original manufacturer in regards to the copyrights & intellectual property violation. For a list of Authorized Vorsteiner Dealers & Original Vorsteiner products please contact us at 1-800-601-7615 or info@vorsteiner.com Thank you for your all of your support & patronage and we hope to continue to provide the highest quality parts & service to the BMW community and members. Best Regards, VORSTEINER [Perfection Redefined: Exclusive Vehicle Tuning ] tel: 800.601.7615 tel: 714.974.4300 fax: 714.974.4315 web: www.vorsteiner.com
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Blake Banned 752 Rep 4,649 Posts Drives: Chevy Aveo Join Date: May 2008 Location: Parent's Basement iTrader: (7)	^^ good luck with that. you bust one, 3 more will sprout up overnight. by no means am i siding with the replica vendor, but it's just the nature of the beast unfortunately. i can attest to vorsteiner quality, i have the full CF diffuser, it fit like a glove and has held up to tremendous amounts of heat. buying replicas on ebay can be shady at best...caveat emptor is what i always tell anyone!
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ACZakka325i Colonel 277 Rep 2,008 Posts Drives: 2 stroke Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: CT iTrader: (2)	AHH now I know why their parts are so expensive. They have a team of attorneys on salary. Don't really see how you're gonna be able to nail any replica vendor on anything here. But, whats also funny is that it took me to bring it to your attention. Talk about poor PR. If I were you, to satisfy the many consumers on this board, I would have maybe offered a group buy, or something else besides these measures you've taken. I'm not saying you're in the wrong, but you've really left a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention that this statement about your lawyers is almost laughable. You wont see a dime from me unless you get your priorities straight. __________________ (Waitlist): #1 M2CSL (Current): 2016 F15 X5 3.5xdrive - 2010 997.2 C4S Coupe (Past): 2016 F30 340xi M-Sport -2013 535i xdrive 2008 E92 M3 - 2006 E90 325i 2002 E46 325xi - 1991 E30 325i
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dvpouldar26 Major 64 Rep 1,498 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 328i, Porsche 987.1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Beverly Hills, CA iTrader: (4)	Vorsteiner is having this same problem with a replica of their e92 bootlid spoiler. They are trying to stop production of the product when the vendor is in a country like taiwan, that might not have copyright laws. The confusing part is that Vorsteiner got its claim to fame by making replica CSL parts (10% differnece from OEM parts because of materials and construction). The only way that these vendors in taiwan can make successful replicas is if they make small changes in the design or production of the parts. Sure, replicas would bring Vorsteiners prices, and exclusivity down, but that is how many aftermarket companies are started and how theyre is innovation in these products. It is said that these replica spoliers have better fitment than the authentic Vorsteiner ones. I'm not siding with the replica vendors, and love the Vorsteiners products, but some enthusiasts want a nice part, but cannot afford the price of Vorsteiner products. I hope this problem gets sorted out soon.
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