Good to be back...

djdiplomat · 08-30-2014, 01:18 PM

After selling my E92 a while ago in hopes of acquiring the new F80, I was somewhat disappointed and decided to come back. This time I chose the E90 since I have a new family member (daughter).

S65 is a glorious engine and makes the right sounds at the right time. There is a visceral feeling when driving the car that puts a huge smile on your face. The F80 felt fast however was disappointed with the sound (or lack of) and was missing something I couldn't point out. Even though the interior is a very nice upgrade and the numbers on paper show it is a much better car, it is not worth double the price of a low mileage e90/e92 imo.

Amirsm3 · 08-30-2014, 01:22 PM

Heyyyyyy another twin

welcome back!

M3 n X5M · 08-30-2014, 01:44 PM

Great car! Congratulations!!

I just changed the oil on my e90 and it drives like new. You are right, these cars have something that goes beyond numbers or comparisons in performance.

Your kid will be much happier getting in and out of the e90 vs the e92. My own kid is very comfortable in the e90 and he is seven -- the e92 M3 was always a hassle for him and he could not open a window. So it is a great compromise for the family.

BobS · 08-30-2014, 01:51 PM

Nice! Enjoy the e9x M while you can....there will be a f8x M waiting. Also, I personally want to see what Lexus, audi, merc and others have coming out to compete with the f8x M

jaehshim · 08-30-2014, 02:35 PM

i think you got the right M3, and the right combo
congrats

templarklimek · 08-30-2014, 02:48 PM

The S65 is the last true "M" motor, IMHO that is priceless. The end of the line. The F80's number are very impressive but I too chose to go back to the S65 M3.

I still resent BMW for not using the S65 in 4.4L version that already existed for the F80. The excuse that they did for gas mileage doesn't ring true for me. I think they did as the N55 and S55 come off the same production line. The M motors were produce all by themselves...

And you have the E90 M3, perfect setup and family and fun!

Jasons · 08-30-2014, 02:53 PM

Very good decision. I tested the M4, disappointing ....

Ezio · 08-30-2014, 03:11 PM

yup this is something the F80 guys dont understand. there is more to cars that just performance. i gotta love the way the car sounds. I also like the idea of a bespoke engine.

Alen E90 · 08-30-2014, 03:22 PM

welcome back and congrats!

Azurite M5 · 08-30-2014, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdiplomat

After selling my E92 a while ago in hopes of acquiring the new F80, I was somewhat disappointed and decided to come back. This time I chose the E90 since I have a new family member (daughter).

S65 is a glorious engine and makes the right sounds at the right time. There is a visceral feeling when driving the car that puts a huge smile on your face. The F80 felt fast however was disappointed with the sound (or lack of) and was missing something I couldn't point out. Even though the interior is a very nice upgrade and the numbers on paper show it is a much better car, it is not worth double the price of a low mileage e90/e92 imo.

Beautiful looking car. I was in a similar position recently and decided on an E90. what do you guys in the uS pay for a F80, there 180k new in Australia!

drexplode · 08-30-2014, 03:48 PM

Beautiful car! Space Gray is a beautiful color!

Denk · 08-30-2014, 04:13 PM

Congrats! I'm still in love with wringing out the S65 and the sound continues to be inspirational. I found the f80 I test drove to be a bit sterile in comparison.

///M Power-Belgium · 08-30-2014, 04:27 PM

Welcome back to home man !

So....."We're coming home now"

Note; Stop the video at 0:54 and read=> As it all comes down "To the sound" ! (of the S65 )

And if you play this song in your E90 ," You're realy home "

Yvette · 08-30-2014, 09:39 PM

well i will take new m3 over my e92 m3 anytime but i just cant sell this one. It was my first sight love in 2007. I dont have the same feeling toward the new m3 maybe i am older?

templarklimek · 08-30-2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerez M3

Beautiful looking car. I was in a similar position recently and decided on an E90. what do you guys in the uS pay for a F80, there 180k new in Australia!

That's absurd, does that include a VAT tax. We don't have that here just yet. Per capita income is similar between AUS and U.S. Also the exchange is fairly close most of the time. Jeez...

Who is making 180K off that car? BMW/dealer or AUS government...

SilentAttack · 08-30-2014, 11:22 PM

U made the right choice!!

Azurite M5 · 08-31-2014, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by templarklimek

That's absurd, does that include a VAT tax. We don't have that here just yet. Per capita income is similar between AUS and U.S. Also the exchange is fairly close most of the time. Jeez...

Who is making 180K off that car? BMW/dealer or AUS government...

Yeah it's crazy. Government charges car companies 33% luxury car tax on anything over 57k (new cars) I think which gets passed onto customer. Then you have stamp duty and on road costs.
I paid almost 100k for a 2011 E90, admittedly it was fully loaded and only 9,900km, my car would have been close to 175k new.

Yay-Z · 08-31-2014, 03:19 AM

Welcome back mate!

Helmsman · 08-31-2014, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerez M3

Yeah it's crazy. Government charges car companies 33% luxury car tax on anything over 57k (new cars) I think which gets passed onto customer. Then you have stamp duty and on road costs.
I paid almost 100k for a 2011 E90, admittedly it was fully loaded and only 9,900km, my car would have been close to 175k new.

Wow, and we complain over the luxury taxes over in Sweden - nice feeling to be low cost for a change mate!

Mahmood07 · 08-31-2014, 04:39 AM

I have had a similar experience with the new M4. I was ready to leave my e92 for it, and had very high hopes for the car. I test drove it, and it was fast, handled better than my e92 and felt a little bit lighter. It has a nicer interior and almost everything was a step up from the previous generation. But driving my car right after it, I just loved the S65 paired with the DCT too much. The new engine and transmission felt numb. I also hated the steering at comfort mode.

It's more than just the sound the S65 makes, there's something about a naturally aspirated engine...paired with Eisenmann Race

IB M · 08-31-2014, 09:13 AM

Two different cars. The new one is a torque monster whereas the S65 is an incredible high revving NA v8 the likes of which will never be built again.

I have not driven the F8x M cars yet. Respected media says they are awesome. I am sure I will love them when I do get a drive. That said once they can be had for well under MSRP or for $50k on the used market I bet the driving experience will be even that much better.

The S65 is special no doubt and last of the hand built M motors. I plan to keep my E92 and add a F80M3 in a few years.

Welcome back btw. E9x cars are a steal right now on the used market so smart move.

djdiplomat · 08-31-2014, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IB M

Two different cars. The new one is a torque monster whereas the S65 is an incredible high revving NA v8 the likes of which will never be built again.

I have not driven the F8x M cars yet. Respected media says they are awesome. I am sure I will love them when I do get a drive. That said once they can be had for well under MSRP or for $50k on the used market I bet the driving experience will be even that much better.

The S65 is special no doubt and last of the hand built M motors. I plan to keep my E92 and add a F80M3 in a few years.

Welcome back btw. E9x cars are a steal right now on the used market so smart move.

Exactly right, 2 different cars. Even though the F8X car is a much better performer, it is in a way too refined and a bit over the top in some aspects. Not a bad thing for some but to me, it lost it's soul.

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templarklimek templarklimek 142 Rep 868 Posts Drives: 15' X6M, 12' R8 V10, Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston Texas iTrader: (0)	The S65 is the last true "M" motor, IMHO that is priceless. The end of the line. The F80's number are very impressive but I too chose to go back to the S65 M3. I still resent BMW for not using the S65 in 4.4L version that already existed for the F80. The excuse that they did for gas mileage doesn't ring true for me. I think they did as the N55 and S55 come off the same production line. The M motors were produce all by themselves... And you have the E90 M3, perfect setup and family and fun!
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Ezio Brigadier General 380 Rep 3,934 Posts Drives: 2023 Alfa Romeo, 2023 m240i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: MI iTrader: (0)	yup this is something the F80 guys dont understand. there is more to cars that just performance. i gotta love the way the car sounds. I also like the idea of a bespoke engine.
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Denk Brigadier General 1006 Rep 3,341 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Join Date: May 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (2)	Congrats! I'm still in love with wringing out the S65 and the sound continues to be inspirational. I found the f80 I test drove to be a bit sterile in comparison.
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Mahmood07 Captain 86 Rep 856 Posts Drives: E92 M3 + F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boston->San Diego->Bahrain iTrader: (0)	I have had a similar experience with the new M4. I was ready to leave my e92 for it, and had very high hopes for the car. I test drove it, and it was fast, handled better than my e92 and felt a little bit lighter. It has a nicer interior and almost everything was a step up from the previous generation. But driving my car right after it, I just loved the S65 paired with the DCT too much. The new engine and transmission felt numb. I also hated the steering at comfort mode. It's more than just the sound the S65 makes, there's something about a naturally aspirated engine...paired with Eisenmann Race __________________ ///M3 Mods: \| Eisenmann Race Exhaust \| Primary Cats Delete (TTP) \| ESS Tune \| 19" Advan RS \| Eibach Springs \| MS Air Filter \| BMW Perf. Spoiler \| BMW Perf. Splitters \| Euro LCI Tail lights \| Angel iBright v.3.0 \| 20% Tint \| Matte black Kidney Grills \| CF Side Gills \| Painted Reflectors \| Black M3 emblem
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IB M Brigadier General 2782 Rep 4,249 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 MG/SO ZCP DCT Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (1) Garage List 2017 BMW M3 [8.50] 2013 BMW M3 [10.00]	Two different cars. The new one is a torque monster whereas the S65 is an incredible high revving NA v8 the likes of which will never be built again. I have not driven the F8x M cars yet. Respected media says they are awesome. I am sure I will love them when I do get a drive. That said once they can be had for well under MSRP or for $50k on the used market I bet the driving experience will be even that much better. The S65 is special no doubt and last of the hand built M motors. I plan to keep my E92 and add a F80M3 in a few years. Welcome back btw. E9x cars are a steal right now on the used market so smart move.
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