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AA and VF are still brewing up their kit. And waiting for them is only fair to the other 2 companies.
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01-17-2010, 08:12 PM | #69 | |
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He does spit some good facts sometimes, but he is Superman behind that computer screen. I talk to everyone behind the computer as I would talk to them in person. As far as my vote goes, Gintani 100%, I am not a engine guy, or even care too much about power, I have seen NiteRiders kit run for about 10k+ miles, and he trusts Gintani being he is a full on BMW TECH, I trust his choice. Alex is very helpful, and backs his product like no other. Gintani all the way |
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01-17-2010, 08:13 PM | #70 |
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The Man has a Very legitimate point ( PG ) everyone doesnt live at the dragstrip but yet almost anyone can push their cars as they would on open roads
When i hear drag strip i think of rollcage , gutted out , drag radials & alot of 1/4 runs practice , your basic driver wont be able to grasp that rush , but they can handle road runs plus theres very little room for drivers error Fare on both the driver and the car .... |
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01-17-2010, 08:30 PM | #73 | |
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I can only speak of what i have witnessed and try'd unlike others making statements for SC'd cars they have never been in . |
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01-17-2010, 08:30 PM | #74 | |
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Huh, why isn't the answer good enough regarding the chart? Because why would you post the uncorrected chart to begin with unless you were trying to imply larger power figures? Seems to me ESS has a repeat pattern of doing that with dyno charts. No, it is not exactly the opposite, look at the chart posted that is not breaking 600 wheel. Why is it not supporting you? Why do other cars with similar mods with corrected dyno figures post results that are far more in line with the corrected figure? Do you really think the same boost through an aftermarket exhaust is going to post radically different figures like what we got? No, it won't, and the purpose was to boast peak dyno figures The GS car is running a modified kit, clearly, so what? It is not a customer car and it is not running a typical tune or pulley. It also has support no one else will see, it is not representative of an actual customer car running 91 octane in the United States. It may as well be a one-off, actually, it is. Yep, someone taking their car to the drag strip is just a regular guy with no race team. Just a regular guy trying to put down good numbers for fun, why have no regular guys done that with any other kit yet? Do they need to strip their car and run in a European race series? You think water-meth is a big deal? HPF has been doing it for a while now, it is quite commonplace in the forced induction scene. I understand you are new to it, but this has been going on since the E36 days. Frankly, I'm shocked ESS and VF do not offer water-meth specific tunes for the 91 octane audience, a glaring oversight. VF already paid for it. |
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Coming from a guy who makes a new account every week to tell everyone how great Gintani is and how every other product sucks The guy owns an ESS kit and drives it everyday. I would say his feedback on ESS superchargers would be a little more reliable then yours.
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01-17-2010, 08:30 PM | #76 | |
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Lets be real, you make a new account because you couldn't handle not participating in this thread thread. What I do find funny is seeing the Gintani fanboys get banned, because they all are loudmouths. |
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01-17-2010, 08:32 PM | #77 | |
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01-17-2010, 08:34 PM | #78 |
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Let's be real, there was a ton of BS in this thread and we now have a far more accurate picture now. Perhaps you are upset because you went around supporting inflated dyno figures from ESS as if they were gospel? Didn't you say ESS dyno'd more than Gintani without even interpreting or questioning it? Why don't they ban people who spread misinformation would be my question?
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01-17-2010, 08:36 PM | #79 |
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You would say his feedback on ESS superchargers would be reliable? I can only go by what I have seen and I have yet to see any real world numbers from ESS... |
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01-17-2010, 08:55 PM | #81 | |
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If you have a Vbox the Mojave mile will give you what you stated. You can get the Vbox data without having to head all the way to the mile, so what is the point of mentioning it? It is not a double standard, most people use the 1/4 mile but you want to use the mile for some reason. The 1/4 mile gives ET and trap, far more useful, than just terminal speed which you get in the mile. Most people will not care about the mile figures, that is the majority, and the numbers will have a far smaller base to compare against. That is a fact, and I want to know what mods do in the 1/4 as well as the mile and everything else. Most people would prefer just 1/4 mile numbers. Desparation? I'm sorry PG, the stroker has put down very poor performance so far. It is far behind bolt on cars and SC cars. This is not me being desperate, this is simply where we are. Don't take it negatively, I would like to see the stroker do something, anything, to justify the cost. The 1/4 mile strip shows what the cars trap speed and ET is. Why would I drag race on the street? The trap speed shows just how fast the car will be in the real world, such as that Mexican highway that seems to be popular. I would not be interested in performance parts to drag race on the street but if I do drag race on the strip I expect them to perform. There are owners interested in this, so why is only one company doing it and backing up their numbers? Focusing on dyno figures only is a double standard. 1/4 mile times are hardly irrelevant, I will take a slip and trap speed over dyno numbers any day. You like the mile because it takes much of the driver skill out of it and it would help alleviate some of the issues you have had with performance numbers so far. I will do them all probably, but I don't think it would be fair to compare you to me as the power disparity is too great. |
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01-17-2010, 09:42 PM | #83 |
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Ok. So if SC Company #1 was the most reliable but cannot beat a stock car, you would buy it? Going F/I means you want more power, not reliability. Reliability is the ancillary effect of a solid company.
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01-17-2010, 09:47 PM | #85 |
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LOL. Since ESS and Gintani and lots of others dont live near each other, these events brings everyone together and can have some races. Of course the street. Hope your going to be there....
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I have no idea who you are referring to. I am Rectify the Canadian, I am a Libra, my eyes are green, and I enjoy long walks on the beach and pray every night for world peace.
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Try to make it. Its all about meeting the people and seeing all of the cool cars. |
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