What Else Is There for More Power?

Ado · 06-03-2009, 02:00 AM

I'm trying to figure out if there is anything else we can throw in to get more power? So far without going with a supercharger here is what I've got:

Big Power Gains - Superchargers
GPower SuperCharger I - Gains: ??HP - ?? TQ - ([Cost-$??])
GPower SuperCharger II - Gains: ??HP - ?? TQ - ([Cost-$??])
GPower SuperCharger II - Gains: ??HP - ?? TQ - ([Cost-$??])

Big Power - Storker Motors
RD Sport - Gains: ?? - ([Cost-$??]) - (This is a whole new motor) - http://70.168.158.110/IC_01.cfm?ic=1426546922

Smaller Power - Misc Mods
Exhaust Headers (RD Sport) - Gains: 20RWHP - 20RWTQ - ([RD-$??])
Software (AA, other companies) - Gains: 10-15 RWHP - ([AA-$995])
Pulleys (AA, other companies) - Gains: 10-12 RWHP - ([AA-$495])
Intake Air Filter (AA, other companies) - Gains: 5-7 RWHP - 5-7 RWTQ - ([AA-$69])
Exhaust (AA, other companies) - Gains: 12-??RWHP - 8 RWTQ - ([AA-$1,999-$2695])
High Flow Throttle Bodies - (Dinan) - Gains: 7HP - 5TQ - ([Dinan-$2299])

Is there anything else that's out now?

I found some more stuff

808E90 · 06-03-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

Stroker motor.
Super charger.
Stroker motor + super charger.

Anything else other then the three above

FStop7 · 06-03-2009, 02:10 AM

nawz

Jiaim · 06-03-2009, 04:27 AM

custom twin turbocharging with built low comp stroker

?

M3WC · 06-03-2009, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ado

Smaller Power - Misc Mods
Exhaust Headers (RD Sport) - Gains: 20RWHP - 20RWTQ - ([RD-$??])
Software (AA, other companies) - Gains: 10-15 RWHP - ([AA-$995])
Pulleys (AA, other companies) - Gains: 10-12 RWHP - ([AA-$495])
Intake Air Filter (AA, other companies) - Gains: 5-7 RWHP - 5-7 RWTQ - ([AA-$69])
Exhaust (AA, other companies) - Gains: 12-??RWHP - 8 RWTQ - ([AA-$1,999-$2695])
High Flow Throttle Bodies - (Dinan) - Gains: 7HP - 5TQ - ([Dinan-$2299])

You might as well just do the ESS supercharger, if you are going to get all those bolt-ons. Those cost add up. ESS supercharger is ~$12,000.

J08M3 · 06-03-2009, 08:32 AM

not really more engine power, but you can always change your FD ratio.

AMPowerJ · 06-03-2009, 10:28 AM

I have heard that decals add a few HP.

askiles · 06-03-2009, 10:36 AM

What will you be using the power for? That is a big factor in what type of power adder you should use.

-Andy

J08M3 · 06-03-2009, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askiles

What will you be using the power for? That is a big factor in what type of power adder you should use.

-Andy

going faster

askiles · 06-03-2009, 11:01 AM

Going faster where? On the streets? On the drag strip? On the track? There is a use that works better for some than others.

-Andy

Deathboy · 06-03-2009, 11:27 AM

You forgot the dinan rear Diff?

eagletangogreen · 06-03-2009, 12:44 PM

A great power adder is a good "Driving School"

John@BMW · 06-03-2009, 12:57 PM

I wonder if someone will come out with velocity stacks for the S65

KINGLEH · 06-03-2009, 02:46 PM

If you want to go faster... And serious about it. Take out everything in your car. Strip it.... 200 pounds would prob feel like 25hp

JCbmw22 · 06-03-2009, 03:20 PM

5.0L V10 S85 Engine swap is my choice

SV Concepts · 06-03-2009, 03:28 PM

Just wait until AA and VF Engineering are done with their supercharger kits.
G-Power isn't very popular in the US.
I don't understand the appeal of a stroker, personally.... I much prefer a forced induction car... which is why all of my cars have always been F/I, and my current toy is a ~450HP 335.

We'll have the AA and VF kits as soon as testing is completed. VF has been driving around their beastly supercharged E92 M3 for quite some time now.

JL

spyderco10 · 06-03-2009, 11:53 PM

I think these should help

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jrAdiRon · 06-04-2009, 12:45 AM

+1 hp

Nawaaz · 06-04-2009, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGLEH

If you want to go faster... And serious about it. Take out everything in your car. Strip it.... 200 pounds would prob feel like 25hp

One of the smartest answers that I've read on this forum my friend.

I don't think M3 owners would want to strip down their "luxury" sport sedan's like someone would with an Evo. Although I do agree 100% with your point. I ordered my '09 e90 M3 with barely any options at all. I enjoy the simplicity of a driver's car.....But I'm sure I'll never decide to strip it down since I have a family and it'll be my daily driver also.

MrHarris · 06-04-2009, 03:51 AM

ESS SC is 601whp. Also any good X-Pipe makes like 15-20whp, and 15-20wtq. The axle back only makes 5-10whp/wtq if their lucky.

CSanto · 06-04-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeek

And likewise, I don't understand the appeal of forced induction. As I've said many times: anybody can stick a hair-dryer on a motor and make power.

I dunno you make it sound like Turbo charged or Supercharged engines aren't well engineered.

ZR1
Ford GT
Porsche Turbo/GT2
Nissan GTR

Those are some good cars.

JuniorDee · 06-04-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeek

Now compare this list to the design of a FI motor. You can start by removing everything from that list -- as being relatively non-important -- or being so unimportant, that an entry-level machanical engineer could have designed it. In fact, start with any motor you want. Get a blower, design a bracket, add some plumbing back to the intake -- maybe add an exhaust -- and you're done. Where's the engineering involved in that? Is the real engineering done figuring out how to fit the plumbing under the hood?

That's what I mean when I say "anybody can add a hair-dryer to a motor and make power."

there is real engineering prowness to make the s65 engine, I appreciate that level of engineering.

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