Gintani DCT Enhanced Oil Pan *New Product Introduction*

[Charles@Gintani.com]

Gintani is very excited to introduce our new Gintani DCT Enhanced Oil Pan!

• Machined from Billet Aluminum 6061 (aluminum has more heat transfer properties to help soak heat from DCT oil compared to the stock plastic DCT oil pan).
• Enlarged outer cooling fins (to cool down DCT oil from heat transfer)
• Increased fluid capacity to promote cooler oil temperatures (stock holds 1 liter compared to ours which holds 2.65 liters).
• We provide a steel drain plug.
• Re-utilizes your stock DCT oil pan gasket.
• CNC’ed in-house at our Gintani facility (Made in USA).

*You do not re-use your OEM black under tray with our pan as our pan is a bit deeper and to promote further cooling.

For pricing, please refer to our thread in the Sponsors - Engine | Drivetrain | Exhaust Section: HERE

*Also compatible with the 2011-14 135i, 335iS, F10 M5, and F12/3 M6 DCT.



In the next 2-3 weeks, we plan to provide a full kit as well for those who want to take it a step further. Our Gintani DCT Enhanced Oil Pan will be upgrade-able for those who purchase the pan now and want to purchase the full kit later.

Our full kit will include the Gintani DCT Enhanced Oil Pan, 1 Auxiliary Oil Cooler, 2 SPAL Fans, XRP Teflon Oil Lines, and 1 External Oil Pump to promote even further DCT Oil cooling. Our Gintani DCT Enhanced Oil Pan provides plenty of cooling for the average enthusiast, but those who want to ensure the best cooling whether on the track or street, the full kit will provide the best DCT oil cooling in the market.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Office: 818-787-8260
Email: Charles@gintani.com

Thank you!

Here is a quick picture of our prototype (it was not andonized like our product pans will be):


Updated:



Received them back from anodizing on 5/20/14:









Gintani DCT Enhanced Oil Pan vs OEM:

[dparm]

Interesting. What sort of data do you have about the reduced temperatures?

[regular guy]

Also like to see some data on temperatures.

[Charles@Gintani.com]

Originally Posted by dparm

Interesting. What sort of data do you have about the reduced temperatures?

Originally Posted by regular guy

Also like to see some data on temperatures.

We will be heading out to the track on May 3rd to test this on a heavily tracked E92 M3 with our oil pan and another heavily tracked E9X M3 without our oil pan to monitor DCT oil temperatures.

[regular guy]

Originally Posted by Charles@Gintani.com

We will be heading out to the track on May 3rd to test this on a heavily tracked E92 M3 with our oil pan and another heavily tracked E9X M3 without our oil pan to monitor DCT oil temperatures.

Sounds perfect. Hopefully both cars are around the same horsepower level, same final drives, etc. Also log both cars for the same session. Make sure to monitor oil temperature, water temperature, ambient air temperature, RPM, and DCT temperature. Then post graphs for the entire session.

If you can do this for every session of the day, then that would be even better.

[Charles@Gintani.com]

Originally Posted by regular guy

Sounds perfect. Hopefully both cars are around the same horsepower level, same final drives, etc. Also log both cars for the same session. Make sure to monitor oil temperature, water temperature, ambient air temperature, RPM, and DCT temperature. Then post graphs for the entire session.

If you can do this for every session of the day, then that would be even better.

We will do our best to keep the variances as minimal as possible. We appreciate your thorough recommendations, we should hire you as our data logger!

[coloradoe92m3]

Why the need? I can't remember anyone having over heating issues with dct. Now if this prevents leaks, that's a great thing

[regular guy]

Originally Posted by coloradoe92m3

Why the need? I can't remember anyone having over heating issues with dct. Now if this prevents leaks, that's a great thing

DCT overheating is a very common problem for supercharged M3's trying to heat up their tires at the drag strip. Some well known and very funny video's on youtube of the sticky guy clunking his tranny after it overheated on the Sacramento drag strip. This product is targeted at that market and addressing the overall issue of DCT overheating in very high horsepower M3's (and apparently the other compatible tranny's as well).

[M-powerMode]

Originally Posted by regular guy

DCT overheating is a very common problem for supercharged M3's trying to heat up their tires at the drag strip. Some well known and very funny video's on youtube of the sticky guy clunking his tranny after it overheated on the Sacramento drag strip. This product is targeted at that market and addressing the overall issue of DCT overheating in very high horsepower M3's (and apparently the other compatible tranny's as well).

I remember see'ing that video, that's the guy who couldn't launch his car.

[Charles@Gintani.com]

Originally Posted by coloradoe92m3

Why the need? I can't remember anyone having over heating issues with dct. Now if this prevents leaks, that's a great thing

The stock DCT tends to overheat when you track, race 1/4 mile, or do burnouts on high horsepower cars.

[e92zero]

also isn't the stock plastic pan on the DCT prone to leaking after a while? Was wondering when someone will finally make something like this. Pretty cool.

[Charles@Gintani.com]

Originally Posted by e92zero

also isn't the stock plastic pan on the DCT prone to leaking after a while? Was wondering when someone will finally make something like this. Pretty cool.

Yes, there is a very good chance of it due to the DCT oil heat transferring to the plastic DCT pan and causing it to warp. Our Gintani DCT Enhanced Oil Pan is designed to minimize the amount of warping due to the billet aluminum 6061 construction and overall increased structural integrity of our pan.

[Someone?]

What kinda Oil does the DCT use? and whats the cost of thee oil and do you guys sell it so it can be shipped with the Trans Pan? Thanks

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by ibmike

What kinda Oil does the DCT use?

0w-40

I keed!

[dparm]

Originally Posted by ibmike

What kinda Oil does the DCT use? and whats the cost of thee oil and do you guys sell it so it can be shipped with the Trans Pan? Thanks

Pentosin FFL-4, or equivalent, such as Castrol Transmax Dual or ZF TE ML-11.

I use Motul Multi DCTF.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by regular guy

video's on youtube of the sticky guy clunking his tranny after it overheated on the Sacramento drag strip.

Didn't he look at producing/fitting a similar custom DCT pan for his car?

[aus]

Originally Posted by dparm

Pentosin FFL-4, or equivalent, such as Castrol Transmax Dual or ZF TE ML-11.

I use Motul Multi DCTF.

Good info. Thanks.

I've definitely seen DCT's go into limp mode on a hot track day.
Is the DCT the same unit on the M5/M6??? If it is, it would explain why it seems to hold up we'll to supercharging.

.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by aus

Good info. Thanks.

I've definitely seen DCT's go into limp mode on a hot track day.
Is the DCT the same unit on the M5/M6??? If it is, it would explain why it seems to hold up we'll to supercharging.

.

No, it's not the same unit. It is mechanically similar but is considered a newer and more beefed-up version (since the M5/6 is more powerful). M3's unit is supposedly good to about 400lb-ft and 9000rpm, whereas the M5's is good to over 500lb-ft but only 7500rpm.

E9x M3 = Getrag 7DCI600
F10 M5/F12 M6 = Getrag GS7D36BG



Transmission changes compared to the M3 GS7D36SG (aka 7DCI600):
• Adaptation of torque and power through a special processing procedure of the
gear surfaces.
• Due to the lower speed range of the S63B44T0 engine, 5th gear is now a direct
gear and 7th gear is the indirect gear. There is also a change to the 7th position in
the designation of the transmission. M3 designation GS7D36"S"G (sport) F10 M5
designation GS7D36"B"G (Gasoline).
• All gear sets and the control of the sliding clutches 5/7, have been redesigned.
• The hydraulic emergency operation is discontinued. In the event of a power failure
the transmission remains in Neutral.
• The parking lock automatically engages after approx. 15 minutes after the engine
has shut off with the gear selector position "N" and ignition "ON" Car wash mode.
• The transmission oil cooling system is different to that of the M3 with M DCT
Drivelogic. The coolant/oil heat exchanger and the 95° C (203° F) thermostat are not
used. The air/oil heat exchanger circuit provides the cooling on its own. The oil
capacity is 9.5 liters (10 quarts) including the radiator.


Tech details on how it differs from the M3's:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...te-vehicle.pdf

[IMG]

Very nice

[Charles@Gintani.com]

Originally Posted by dparm

No, it's not the same unit. It is mechanically similar but is considered a newer and more beefed-up version (since the M5/6 is more powerful). M3's unit is supposedly good to about 400lb-ft and 9000rpm, whereas the M5's is good to over 500lb-ft but only 7500rpm.

E9x M3 = Getrag 7DCI600
F10 M5/F12 M6 = Getrag GS7D36BG



Transmission changes compared to the M3 GS7D36SG (aka 7DCI600):
• Adaptation of torque and power through a special processing procedure of the
gear surfaces.
• Due to the lower speed range of the S63B44T0 engine, 5th gear is now a direct
gear and 7th gear is the indirect gear. There is also a change to the 7th position in
the designation of the transmission. M3 designation GS7D36"S"G (sport) F10 M5
designation GS7D36"B"G (Gasoline).
• All gear sets and the control of the sliding clutches 5/7, have been redesigned.
• The hydraulic emergency operation is discontinued. In the event of a power failure
the transmission remains in Neutral.
• The parking lock automatically engages after approx. 15 minutes after the engine
has shut off with the gear selector position "N" and ignition "ON" Car wash mode.
• The transmission oil cooling system is different to that of the M3 with M DCT
Drivelogic. The coolant/oil heat exchanger and the 95° C (203° F) thermostat are not
used. The air/oil heat exchanger circuit provides the cooling on its own. The oil
capacity is 9.5 liters (10 quarts) including the radiator.


Tech details on how it differs from the M3's:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...te-vehicle.pdf

Although the DCT is different between the E9X M3 and F10 M5 and F12/3 M6, the DCT Oil Pan is the same. They even share the same part number across the board for all BMW's with the DCT.

[Vic311]

Originally Posted by Charles@Gintani.com

• Re-utilizes your stock DCT oil pan gasket.

I am by no means a DCT expert but this seems like a let down considering DCT is very prone to leaks. I would have sought a better solution than factory equipment, Just some food for thought.

[phrozen06]

Interesting. I may have to invest.