Break-in question

ee2 · 03-08-2008, 04:15 PM

got to drive a melbourne red wtih beige coupe yesterday. all i can say, is amazing! have never driven an M3 before, but mine is on a boat--about 3 weeks from delivery.

question, the CA told me the car is "dialed back" to around 300 hp for the first 1200 miles and that this is done electronically. havent heard of this before. he said you bring it in for first service and they take care of it then. is this accurate?

even with only 300 hp under foot, it was unbelievable. car had extended leather which also looked great. no carbon roof though...

KASM3 · 03-08-2008, 04:50 PM

I would vote for a 'BS' response. He knows nothing!

skierman64 · 03-08-2008, 04:58 PM

I'd ask the dealer to show you some written BMW literature that says the engine is "dialed back". Sounds like BS to me. How are the dealers going to sell a car to prospective customers without impressing them with the entire 414hp that the car is capable of?

The experts are probably the service department. I'd ask the service manager.

I have to raise the BS flag.

GregW / Oregon · 03-08-2008, 05:50 PM

The only "dialing back" I'm aware of is that the rev limiter is set to like 7,000 if there is no road speed sensed. This is done to prevent overreving (engine revs extremely quickly with no load).

skierman64 · 03-09-2008, 12:08 AM

ee2, time to challange the idiotic statements of your CA.

It really bugs me when CAs make crap up. Especially a BMW CA.

nusevad · 03-09-2008, 12:19 AM

Def. BS flag.

nusevad · 03-09-2008, 12:41 AM

Then thats probably why people say the car doesnt feel fast when they drive the demos.

yungmsix · 03-09-2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ee2

got to drive a melbourne red wtih beige coupe yesterday. all i can say, is amazing! have never driven an M3 before, but mine is on a boat--about 3 weeks from delivery.

question, the CA told me the car is "dialed back" to around 300 hp for the first 1200 miles and that this is done electronically. havent heard of this before. he said you bring it in for first service and they take care of it then. is this accurate?

even with only 300 hp under foot, it was unbelievable. car had extended leather which also looked great. no carbon roof though...

you can drive the hell out of the car already bro. its not an M5/M6, where its 507 HP your dealing with. once you hit a few hundred miles your good to go. these cars come pre-ran in anways ! enjoy ! have fun and drive safe

Big Windy · 03-09-2008, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by yungmsix

these cars come pre-ran in anways !

wtf?

Buschy · 03-09-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by redmtclimber

wtf?

skierman64 · 03-09-2008, 09:28 AM

Well cool, once we get full power we'll be able to get 3.5 0-60 times and 10 second 1/4 mile tiimes stock. Its amazing the tests have gotten such good performance on dialed back cars.

I hope the first 1200 miles goes fast.

yungmsix · 03-09-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skierman64

Well cool, once we get full power we'll be able to get 3.5 0-60 times and 10 second 1/4 mile tiimes stock. Its amazing the tests have gotten such good performance on dialed back cars.

I hope the first 1200 miles goes fast.

3.5? where are you getting 0-60 in 3.5?

....also ask your rep and he will tell you they come pre-ran in. almost all high performance cars are.

skierman64 · 03-09-2008, 02:46 PM

I figue all the cars that the magazines test are low mileage cars since there aren't many in the US anyhow. Therefore (per laszlo) they are being tested at less than full power. So when they test at full power we'll be seeing times under 4.

Its all sarcasm.

GregW / Oregon · 03-09-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yungmsix

3.5? where are you getting 0-60 in 3.5?

Recognize sarcasm?

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....also ask your rep and he will tell you they come pre-ran in. almost all high performance cars are.

So all the stuff they put in the manual about break-in is just to use more pages?

Ask your rep? LOL.

MShift · 03-09-2008, 08:27 PM

hahaha
BS for sure

The dealer I was at today had a break in sticker on the windshield (as I mentioned in another thread) saying 1200 miles @ 5500 RPM limit. I took it to 6k a couple times accidentally, but im sure it will be fine.

Jinxter · 03-10-2008, 02:00 AM

well I would only agree with the SA if you in fact never reved the car over 5k rpm. Because it feels like about 300 or so HP at 5k +/-. But the engine limited to 300hp? BS... I can feel it wanting to be pushed harder when I get to 5k rpm. I just cant give her the satisfaction yet.

Bastet · 03-10-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

So all the stuff they put in the manual about break-in is just to use more pages?

Hey youngmsix, what about all M3s already in circulation here in Europe which have been through the break-in period?

By the way, we had our first service (thus after the break-in) last Friday and NOW we can truly unleash the beast

markjenz · 03-10-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

e46 M3 and e60 M5's were dialed back and after the 1200 service you get full power. not sure what hp numbers are, but the car isn't at peak until after the service.

there was no dial back on m3e46 and m3e92! both have full power from beginning...at least in germany....

us stories may be different...like the nice indicators....

Big Windy · 03-10-2008, 09:57 AM

i just don't understand this whole idea of pre-ran in. does that mean somebody sits in the car at the last stage of production and turns the engine on and lets it run at different rpms? or maybe somebody at the dealer drives it around and then drives the same number of miles in reverse to get the odometer back to zero? haha. i've obviously heard the break-in debates, but pre-ran is new for me.

GregW / Oregon · 03-10-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bastet

Hey youngmsix, what about all M3s already in circulation here in Europe which have been through the break-in period?

By the way, we had our first service (thus after the break-in) last Friday and NOW we can truly unleash the beast

Took you long enough! Garaged during the Winter?

drkbrent · 03-10-2008, 07:01 PM

I'd love to know if BMW "pre-runs" their engines from the factory. I cannot see why they wouldn't. I know that Ferrari takes them on the track immediately after production and runs the snot out of them (you may have even seen their factory show on television recently...BMW and Corvette also had their factories shown on the same series). I can't help but thing the 1200 mile break-in applies mostly to the gears and transmission. Just my guess.

Dinan540 · 03-10-2008, 07:36 PM

Total BS....but I can tell you that the "Power" button button which regulates a quicker throttle response is disabled until the 1200 mile service.

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ee2 New Member 3 Rep 23 Posts Drives: land rover lr3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: memphis tn iTrader: (0)	Break-in question got to drive a melbourne red wtih beige coupe yesterday. all i can say, is amazing! have never driven an M3 before, but mine is on a boat--about 3 weeks from delivery. question, the CA told me the car is "dialed back" to around 300 hp for the first 1200 miles and that this is done electronically. havent heard of this before. he said you bring it in for first service and they take care of it then. is this accurate? even with only 300 hp under foot, it was unbelievable. car had extended leather which also looked great. no carbon roof though...
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KASM3 Lieutenant 160 Rep 466 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	I would vote for a 'BS' response. He knows nothing!
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MShift OG 217 Rep 696 Posts Drives: MW '13 E92 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami iTrader: (3)	hahaha BS for sure The dealer I was at today had a break in sticker on the windshield (as I mentioned in another thread) saying 1200 miles @ 5500 RPM limit. I took it to 6k a couple times accidentally, but im sure it will be fine.
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Jinxter Lieutenant 44 Rep 544 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California iTrader: (2)	well I would only agree with the SA if you in fact never reved the car over 5k rpm. Because it feels like about 300 or so HP at 5k +/-. But the engine limited to 300hp? BS... I can feel it wanting to be pushed harder when I get to 5k rpm. I just cant give her the satisfaction yet. __________________ 08' e92 M3 6MT // Rogue SSK // B&B Tri Flow Exhaust // AA air filter // Mod Carbon Skirt extensions // Amuse Front/Rear Bumper // Amuse Trunk // Gloss Black Grills w/ M colors // gloss black side vents // M5 Stick with IND custom stitched boot // Carbon Firber wrap steering wheel trim // Avant Garde M364 20' (street) // Advan RS 18's (track)
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Big Windy Major General 152 Rep 5,124 Posts Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	i just don't understand this whole idea of pre-ran in. does that mean somebody sits in the car at the last stage of production and turns the engine on and lets it run at different rpms? or maybe somebody at the dealer drives it around and then drives the same number of miles in reverse to get the odometer back to zero? haha. i've obviously heard the break-in debates, but pre-ran is new for me.
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drkbrent Enlisted Member 3 Rep 49 Posts Drives: '08 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA iTrader: (0)	I'd love to know if BMW "pre-runs" their engines from the factory. I cannot see why they wouldn't. I know that Ferrari takes them on the track immediately after production and runs the snot out of them (you may have even seen their factory show on television recently...BMW and Corvette also had their factories shown on the same series). I can't help but thing the 1200 mile break-in applies mostly to the gears and transmission. Just my guess.
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Dinan540 Bimmer Geek 7 Rep 33 Posts Drives: Supercharged 540i & 08 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Buckeye State iTrader: (0)	Total BS....but I can tell you that the "Power" button button which regulates a quicker throttle response is disabled until the 1200 mile service. __________________ AW / 19" Rims / Tech Pkg / Extended Black Lthr. / Carbon Trim / Enhanced Audio / 35% Tint / M25 Laser Jammer / Valentine 1 / Pagid RS-19 Pads / AA Short Shifter / Dinan 4.10 Limited Slip / AFE Air Filter / Eisenmann Race / Fabspeed HFC and X Pipe
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