E90 Tint - anyone WITHOUT Tint Protector NOT having the scratching issues?

Chowster · 01-05-2011, 12:59 PM

Obviously this has been discussed before, but I would like to see if anyone has had a tint installed on their sedan WITHOUT the Tint Protector, and NOT had the scratching issues on the front windows. I would like to see if this is a sporadic issue, or is it a 100% guarantee that it'll scratch without the moleskin installed.

Thanks for the help.

Kurohouou · 01-05-2011, 01:14 PM

I'm curious to know this as well.

Chowster · 01-05-2011, 01:49 PM

There is some speculation over on E90post that MY2011 may have felt-lining on both sides instead of just the outside, negating the need for Tint Protector. Help anyone?

Mr.MichaelM3 · 01-05-2011, 02:25 PM

Ok so my E90 M3 has had Tints on her for about a year. I have scratches on EVERY DAMN WINDOW. It's horrible. Tint places obviously have no idea about this issue. Maybe someone will let the whole "Tint" business know about this issue!

Definitive · 01-05-2011, 03:12 PM

Wow, Never heard of this. I have a early 2011 E90. had tint, but its been off for a little while now. Didnt even know there was such a thing called Tint protector, and I used to install tint and stereos.

When my tint was on I never saw any scratches. But Ill have to look to see if I tint again.

D

Kurohouou · 01-05-2011, 03:36 PM

I just looked at my 2011.5, I didn't see any felt on the inside lining, its just a very soft rubber from what I could tell.

Chowster · 01-05-2011, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Definitive

Wow, Never heard of this. I have a early 2011 E90. had tint, but its been off for a little while now. Didnt even know there was such a thing called Tint protector, and I used to install tint and stereos.

When my tint was on I never saw any scratches. But Ill have to look to see if I tint again.

D

Definitive, thanks for the insight with your early 2011! You'll find quite a number of people that feel VERY strongly on this issue around here. In threads like this:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...t=tint+scratch

Kurohouou · 01-05-2011, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chowster

Definitive, thanks for the insight with your early 2011! You'll find quite a number of people that feel VERY strongly on this issue around here. In threads like this:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...t=tint+scratch

Oh I didn't know that's where the scratches were, ill have to check the bottom seal on my car.. I was looking at the top.

SlamMan · 01-05-2011, 10:51 PM

I have a 2011 E90 M. I got my windows tinted and got a couple fine scratches the very first time I rolled the windows down and back up. I have a tint protector but just haven't had time to install it.

Kurohouou · 01-05-2011, 10:56 PM

I just double checked my 2011.5 e90 and it does have the felt on both the front and back side. I guess that's good news for 2011.5 owners, at least there is a solution for others as well.

Chowster · 01-05-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurohouou

I just double checked my 2011.5 e90 and it does have the felt on both the front and back side. I guess that's good news for 2011.5 owners, at least there is a solution for others as well.

Nice! I assume you're a September 2010 production, or later. How exactly did you check? Just pull back the rubber and peer down with a flashlight? Window open or closed?

Kurohouou · 01-05-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chowster

Nice! I assume you're a September 2010 production, or later. How exactly did you check? Just pull back the rubber and peer down with a flashlight? Window open or closed?

Yeah I just got the car dec 24th. I rolled down the windows and felt both pieces that the window rubs against when going down. They felt the same like felt.

cloud8r · 01-05-2011, 11:40 PM

That is the top seal you're looking at. There is another seal farther down in the door and that is the culprit in these scratching cases. Can you look down with a flashlight?

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Originally Posted by Kurohouou

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chowster

Nice! I assume you're a September 2010 production, or later. How exactly did you check? Just pull back the rubber and peer down with a flashlight? Window open or closed?

Yeah I just got the car dec 24th. I rolled down the windows and felt both pieces that the window rubs against when going down. They felt the same like felt.

Kurohouou · 01-05-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ramyar

That is the top seal you're looking at. There is another seal farther down in the door and that is the culprit in these scratching cases. Can you look down with a flashlight?

I'll give it a look tomorrow. Didn't think there was one deep inside the door

a burrito · 01-06-2011, 12:36 AM

July production 2011 e90 M3 here and I have scratches on every window!

Gitti_M3 · 01-06-2011, 12:45 AM

2011 (April production) E90 M3... yes.. Scratches on EVERY window =(...

dwangvlee · 01-06-2011, 02:48 AM

no felt protection on my 2011 e90(Oct). had tint placed along with felt protection with the installer. cheap and effective. why take any chance of damaging the tint job.

Chowster · 01-06-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dwangvlee

no felt protection on my 2011 e90(Oct). had tint placed along with felt protection with the installer. cheap and effective. why take any chance of damaging the tint job.

Why take the chance? Because it costs more for the install. And my tint guy says he does lots of E90 tints for my dealership without issues. But that's also just on the rear windshield and rear doors.

Having said all that, I've just ordered my Tint Protector, just in case.

Kurohouou · 01-06-2011, 09:43 AM

Just curious how do you install the felt protection? I tried peeling back the top seal a little bit this morning with the window down but couldn't really get it to open much..

Chowster · 01-06-2011, 09:53 AM

Apparently the door panel needs to be opened up. Not speaking from experience of course... I plan on bringing it to the tint installer to do. He says this is also an issue on MBs, Lancers, and a few others.

But there's another thread open about the sequence of the felt and tint install, so we better follow along with that one too.

rjd598 · 01-06-2011, 04:09 PM

2010 e90 here with no tint protector. I went with 35% f1 pinnacle and didn't install the protector. I've had the tint on for about three months now and I only have one scratch on each of the front windows. Though they can't be seen normally only through direct light. I bought the moleskin to install but the tint guy said I already had the required felt on the car to get tint. They offer lifetime warranty and wouldn't give that warranty unless I had the proper felt which he claimed i had. I'll live with it for now because I roll down my windows everyday literally and it hasn't gotten worse. Definitely got luckier than other forum members

Definitive · 01-06-2011, 06:16 PM

So I checked, and my early 2011 (first 2011 e90 on the west coast) e90 does have the felt strip on the outside and inside of the window opening.

D

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Chowster E60_to_E90 36 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada iTrader: (2)	E90 Tint - anyone WITHOUT Tint Protector NOT having the scratching issues? Obviously this has been discussed before, but I would like to see if anyone has had a tint installed on their sedan WITHOUT the Tint Protector, and NOT had the scratching issues on the front windows. I would like to see if this is a sporadic issue, or is it a 100% guarantee that it'll scratch without the moleskin installed. Thanks for the help. __________________ 2011.5 E90 Dinan M3, SS II, M-DCT, EDC, M Drive. 20" MORR VS8.2 wheels Performance Mods: Dinan St.1 suspension, exhaust, intake; TTPs; BPM St.II, DCT, servo tunes Cosmetic Mods: OEM CF splitters, mirrors, center console, spoiler; Arkym CF diffuser; LUX; tint
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Kurohouou Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 206 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: East Side iTrader: (1)	I'm curious to know this as well.
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Chowster E60_to_E90 36 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada iTrader: (2)	There is some speculation over on E90post that MY2011 may have felt-lining on both sides instead of just the outside, negating the need for Tint Protector. Help anyone? __________________ 2011.5 E90 Dinan M3, SS II, M-DCT, EDC, M Drive. 20" MORR VS8.2 wheels Performance Mods: Dinan St.1 suspension, exhaust, intake; TTPs; BPM St.II, DCT, servo tunes Cosmetic Mods: OEM CF splitters, mirrors, center console, spoiler; Arkym CF diffuser; LUX; tint
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Mr.MichaelM3 First Lieutenant 67 Rep 373 Posts Drives: 2022 M3XC Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (0)	Ok so my E90 M3 has had Tints on her for about a year. I have scratches on EVERY DAMN WINDOW. It's horrible. Tint places obviously have no idea about this issue. Maybe someone will let the whole "Tint" business know about this issue!
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Definitive definitivecars.com 354 Rep 3,833 Posts Drives: Elsa - 2015 F80 M3 - YMB/SS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [6.66] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Wow, Never heard of this. I have a early 2011 E90. had tint, but its been off for a little while now. Didnt even know there was such a thing called Tint protector, and I used to install tint and stereos. When my tint was on I never saw any scratches. But Ill have to look to see if I tint again. D
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Kurohouou Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 206 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: East Side iTrader: (1)	I just looked at my 2011.5, I didn't see any felt on the inside lining, its just a very soft rubber from what I could tell.
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SlamMan Captain 148 Rep 800 Posts Drives: ED 5/19/2010, Interlagos E90 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, 303 iTrader: (1)	I have a 2011 E90 M. I got my windows tinted and got a couple fine scratches the very first time I rolled the windows down and back up. I have a tint protector but just haven't had time to install it. __________________ I play real sports. Not tryin' to be the best at exercising. - Kenny Powers
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Kurohouou Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 206 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: East Side iTrader: (1)	I just double checked my 2011.5 e90 and it does have the felt on both the front and back side. I guess that's good news for 2011.5 owners, at least there is a solution for others as well.
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a burrito Lieutenant Colonel 56 Rep 1,962 Posts Drives: Urus, 958.2 TTS, 997 S Join Date: May 2005 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (1)	July production 2011 e90 M3 here and I have scratches on every window! __________________ Peanut Butter Chunky
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Gitti_M3 New Member 2 Rep 23 Posts Drives: '11 E90 AW/FR Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vienna, VA iTrader: (0)	2011 (April production) E90 M3... yes.. Scratches on EVERY window =(...
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dwangvlee DW 0 Rep 18 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: So Cal iTrader: (0)	no felt protection on my 2011 e90(Oct). had tint placed along with felt protection with the installer. cheap and effective. why take any chance of damaging the tint job.
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Kurohouou Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 206 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: East Side iTrader: (1)	Just curious how do you install the felt protection? I tried peeling back the top seal a little bit this morning with the window down but couldn't really get it to open much..
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Chowster E60_to_E90 36 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada iTrader: (2)	Apparently the door panel needs to be opened up. Not speaking from experience of course... I plan on bringing it to the tint installer to do. He says this is also an issue on MBs, Lancers, and a few others. But there's another thread open about the sequence of the felt and tint install, so we better follow along with that one too. __________________ 2011.5 E90 Dinan M3, SS II, M-DCT, EDC, M Drive. 20" MORR VS8.2 wheels Performance Mods: Dinan St.1 suspension, exhaust, intake; TTPs; BPM St.II, DCT, servo tunes Cosmetic Mods: OEM CF splitters, mirrors, center console, spoiler; Arkym CF diffuser; LUX; tint
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rjd598 Banned 1770 Rep 6,696 Posts Drives: F30 340i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Diego,CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 BMW 340i [0.00]	2010 e90 here with no tint protector. I went with 35% f1 pinnacle and didn't install the protector. I've had the tint on for about three months now and I only have one scratch on each of the front windows. Though they can't be seen normally only through direct light. I bought the moleskin to install but the tint guy said I already had the required felt on the car to get tint. They offer lifetime warranty and wouldn't give that warranty unless I had the proper felt which he claimed i had. I'll live with it for now because I roll down my windows everyday literally and it hasn't gotten worse. Definitely got luckier than other forum members
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Definitive definitivecars.com 354 Rep 3,833 Posts Drives: Elsa - 2015 F80 M3 - YMB/SS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [6.66] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	So I checked, and my early 2011 (first 2011 e90 on the west coast) e90 does have the felt strip on the outside and inside of the window opening. D
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