BMW M3 GTS vs 3.0 CSL, According to Chris Harris

luis_m3 · 12-20-2011, 11:47 PM

Nice article... That CSL is beautiful. Never drove one, but hopefully I get my chance in the future. I saw a GTS at the Nurburing and that baby was music to my ears.
Ateam; you're an IDIOT. Do the M World a favor; sell your M3 and get a Civic.

AM1N · 12-21-2011, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

what is the point of this? The cars are SO different generation that it really provides no meaningful comparo. The e46 csl and the gts would be much more exciting and comparable. The car is 40 years old. A base honda civic would likely beat it around a track these days.

its the love of the brand man, you should understand this.

same thing they did in this video...gotta appreciate the fine work of BMW

joshparzi · 12-21-2011, 01:30 AM

interesting

BGM · 12-21-2011, 05:46 AM

putting aside the 'love of the brand' (which makes me want to vomit anyway)

does ateam not have a point... these cars are generations apart and in no way comparable to one another. what am i missing here if that's not the case.

Diver · 12-21-2011, 06:15 AM

Totally strange comparison.

tjockochgammal · 12-21-2011, 07:05 AM

Very nice find!
Chris Harris is one of my favourite car journalists.

yazan · 12-21-2011, 08:45 AM

great

dimabimmer · 12-21-2011, 10:13 AM

Nice!

richb811 · 12-21-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BGM

putting aside the 'love of the brand' (which makes me want to vomit anyway)

does ateam not have a point... these cars are generations apart and in no way comparable to one another. what am i missing here if that's not the case.

Because the 3.0 CSL was yesteryear's version of the M3 GTS. Its not about what is faster around the track, its about comparing the experiences of driving the cars.

The E46 CSL has already had Comparo tests done against the E9X M3 and the 1M...

This is a unique review and I think a very interesting one.

booch · 12-21-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by immiketoo

I wonder what BMW would make if people didn't demand gadgetry in new cars.

less money

m-technik · 12-21-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

The car is 40 years old. A base honda civic would likely beat it around a track these days.

In some circles you would be punched in the mouth for saying this......

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Originally Posted by Rich@GTBPerformance

Because the 3.0 CSL was yesteryear's version of the M3 GTS. Its not about what is faster around the track, its about comparing the experiences of driving the cars.

The E46 CSL has already had Comparo tests done against the E9X M3 and the 1M...

This is a unique review and I think a very interesting one.

Exactly! Well put.

335iJWC · 12-21-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BGM

putting aside the 'love of the brand' (which makes me want to vomit anyway)

does ateam not have a point... these cars are generations apart and in no way comparable to one another. what am i missing here if that's not the case.

They are both related because just like the M1 led to the beginning of the M series.

The CLS led to light weight master pieces, because of the past and step stones like the CSL, motoring is what it is today.

Cdnrockies · 12-21-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iJWC

They are both related because just like the M1 led to the beginning of the M series.

The CLS led to light weight master pieces, because of the past and step stones like the CSL, motoring is what it is today.

Just one more example of BMW marketing blinding the masses.

If you think that the M1 is the birth of the M division you really need to examine the history of the car....going to come as quite a shock when you realize that it isn't really a BMW....lol. Lambo designed it. BMW bailed them out from financial difficulties and slapped their badge on it...lol.

That being said, I actually think it's a pretty cool comparison of cars that are generations apart.

burrito007 · 12-21-2011, 09:27 PM

i still don't really like chris harris. ever since his tard-tastic review of the 1-M and complaints about the steering wheel.

M3SQRD · 12-22-2011, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by luis_m3

Nice article... That CSL is beautiful. Never drove one, but hopefully I get my chance in the future. I saw a GTS at the Nurburing and that baby was music to my ears.
Ateam; you're an IDIOT. Do the M World a favor; sell your M3 and get a Civic.

G2G · 12-22-2011, 06:32 AM

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luis_m3 Low Pro... 35 Rep 1,067 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	Nice article... That CSL is beautiful. Never drove one, but hopefully I get my chance in the future. I saw a GTS at the Nurburing and that baby was music to my ears. Ateam; you're an IDIOT. Do the M World a favor; sell your M3 and get a Civic.
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