Leaving the E9X M3 for F8X M3? Don't give up your E9X for anything

[M3AG]

Originally Posted by Ezio

funny how there are people over in the F80 section who think these cars sound good. showed this vid to a few car guys i know, we had a good laugh.

Sounds of Fury...

[Alex07M3]

Originally Posted by M3AG

Sounds of Fury...

S85

[Flea7]

Test drove a M4 on Friday. I wasn't impressed....Lags...sounds like a fart can...little louder on sports mode (I don't know if this is when the sound is pumped in the audio system) ....and I don't like the looks. I wouldn't buy it for 87k.

[MrPrena]

As video posted, Dodge Dart exhaust sounds very similar to F8x M3/4 exhaust sound.

[JRV]

Originally Posted by Amirsm3

I'm sure it'll be a competitor with 350whp

The more I look at the individual Tanzanite blue on the M4, the more I want it.

The tanzanite is a nice color. It's got presence, probably my favorite color when showing front end of the new M.

[JRV]

Originally Posted by fusionchicken

The F8x cars sound like dogcrap in videos, but I heard an M4 cold start and revs in person and it sounds aggressive as hell. I love it for an I6 with two snails on it.

I was surprised too. The car is not very audiogenic....yea I made that up.

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by Ezio

funny how there are people over in the F80 section who think these cars sound good. showed this vid to a few car guys i know, we had a good laugh.

I don't get it either. It's an impressive car, but there is no denying it sounds pretty bad. But then you have clowns like Richard Hammond who write like they just copy&pasted BMW's press releases and proclaim it one of the "best-sounding cars in ages".

There is a lot of hubbub about aftermarket exhausts, but it seems to me that BMW already wrung out what they could with the flaps essentially creating a straight pipe with no muffler. I suspect a lot of aftermarket solutions will sound far worse, completing the fart-can image. Anyway, for me induction noise trumps exhaust, which turbo cars can never provide.

But for what it's worth, I still want one.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by modkrazy

I don't get it either. It's an impressive car, but there is no denying it sounds pretty bad. But then you have clowns like Richard Hammond who write like they just copy&pasted BMW's press releases and proclaim it one of the "best-sounding cars in ages".

There is a lot of hubbub about aftermarket exhausts, but it seems to me that BMW already wrung out what they could with the flaps essentially creating a straight pipe with no muffler. I suspect a lot of aftermarket solutions will sound far worse, completing the fart-can image. Anyway, for me induction noise trumps exhaust, which turbo cars can never provide.

But for what it's worth, I still want one.

some of that is political, BMW is a powerful company. They dont want to be on there badside.

also some reviews have commented on the sound is not as good. there are a few car reviewers that have not done a M4 that i know will not like the sound.

Richard`s comment is one of the stupidest comments of the ages.

[renaissance]

Frankly speaking, in those E9X M3 owners I know, 90% of them changed their exhausts to Akrapovic or others because the original OEM one is too quiet. So for those new F8X M3 owners who don't like the sound of exhaust, they still can upgrade theirs to Akrapovic or BMW Performance to make it sound better.

However, Turbo Inline 6 Engine can't be upgraded to NA V8 Engine. According to International Engine of the Year, BMW is still the winner for its NA performance engine. So it really depends on what you want.

E46 M3 (S54: 3.2L - 338hp) = 105 hp/L
E9X M3 (S65: 4.0L - 420hp) = 105 hp/L

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by renaissance

Frankly speaking, in those E9X M3 owners I know, 90% of them changed their exhausts to Akrapovic or others because the original OEM one is too quiet. So for those new F8X M3 owners who don't like the sound of exhaust, they still can upgrade theirs to Akrapovic or BMW Performance to make it sound better.

However, Turbo Inline 6 Engine can't be upgraded to NA V8 Engine. According to International Engine of the Year, BMW is still the winner for its NA performance engine. So it really depends on what you want.

E46 M3 (S54: 3.2L - 338hp) = 105 hp/L
E9X M3 (S65: 4.0L - 420hp) = 105 hp/L

stock or after market its going to sound like shit. the Stock E90 at least at a great engine sound stock.

[MrPrena]

Originally Posted by Ezio

stock or after market its going to sound like shit. the Stock E90 at least at a great engine sound stock.

I drove today with top down. S65 sounds amazing.

[M3 Pilot]

Anyone has idea why BMW chose an electric driven exhaust flap as opposed to a vacuum driven one ?

The vacuum driven ones (IE. F430) makes a more distinct sound when it flips open, IE. from volume 5 to 10 in an instant.

In any case a vacuum driven valve still sounds monotone. On the S65 during cold start, you can hear the rpm cycle up and down, the 8 ITBs have a boxer tone in it. The idle alone sounds like there is so much activity going on in the engine.

The S55 just sounds flat.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Ezio

stock or after market its going to sound like shit. the Stock E90 at least at a great engine sound stock.

that's subjective. plenty love the sound of the motogp car. i did

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by rjd598

that's subjective. plenty love the sound of the motogp car. i did

Yes its very subjective.

I know one thing though. I drove a SLS AMG over last weekend, that V8 sounded insane. After i got out of that car, i said screw 6 cylinders forever

[aus]

NA AMG motors for the win. Amazing sound. I'm wondering how the new turbo V8's will sound.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Ezio

Yes its very subjective.

I know one thing though. I drove a SLS AMG over last weekend, that V8 sounded insane. After i got out of that car, i said screw 6 cylinders forever

touche. that is just music to any ear

[zamboni]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

I drove today with top down. S65 sounds amazing.

Aren't you glad you got the S65 engine? Specially with top down and I love the sounds when you hit the M button that would makes the car meaner.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by zamboni

Aren't you glad you got the S65 engine? Specially with top down and I love the sounds when you hit the M button that would makes the car meaner.

The M button doesnt change the sound of the car one bit. Its simply a way to store your favorite presets....

[rngrjag]

Wait Gatorfast, hold up, just a sec. there...

I was pretty sure that the M button was a "push to pass" button that activated the KERS and gave you temporary over boost and an additional 52 hp and 135 lb ft of tq.

Can't believe after seven years of production there is still confusion about what the M button does.

[JRV]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

The M button doesnt change the sound of the car one bit. Its simply a way to store your favorite presets....

But if you program Sport+ to your M button, the note under the hood is a little louder. Exhaust unchanged, yes.

[Saandiaago]

Originally Posted by JRV

But if you program Sport+ to your M button, the note under the hood is a little louder. Exhaust unchanged, yes.

Yeah, I thought the rev matched downshifts do sound louder and more aggressive in sport plus which is what my M button is programmed for in my DCT E92. Is this my imagination? Granted I guess I could get it by programming to sport plus without the M button.

[JRV]

Originally Posted by Saandiaago

Yeah, I thought the rev matched downshifts do sound louder and more aggressive in sport plus which is what my M button is programmed for in my DCT E92. Is this my imagination? Granted I guess I could get it by programming to sport plus without the M button.

Nope your not imagining things. I'm not sure if the options under M for starting up the car allows the Sport+ option to activate. This would help not having to hit M button all the time. Normal and Sport are def the options allowed though.