So what is wrong with the M5/M6

[LarThaL]

Can't believe how many 1-2 year old M5/6 are for sale on ebay with less than like 12-15000 miles. A lot of people are dumping M6 gran coupes in less than a year with less than 5000 miles. What's up? Rarely saw this with the M3.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by LarThaL

Can't believe how many 1-2 year old M5/6 are for sale on ebay with less than like 12-15000 miles. A lot of people are dumping M6 gran coupes in less than a year with less than 5000 miles. What's up? Rarely saw this with the M3.

Maybe it's owners who are bored with the car. Most people who buy/lease high end cars have a lot of money and get bored and trade in their cars for the next best thing or newer style cars.

The M3 attracts a different crowd. It appeals to more enthusiasts than the higher priced M cars.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by LarThaL

Can't believe how many 1-2 year old M5/6 are for sale on ebay with less than like 12-15000 miles. A lot of people are dumping M6 gran coupes in less than a year with less than 5000 miles. What's up? Rarely saw this with the M3.

Maybe you should post exactly the same question here above in the ///M5/6 section ,hoping to get a clear answer !
BTW....I'm curious too

[GotE46M]

Like Z K said people probably get bored after a while and trade it for something else.

Not saying the M5/M6 are in the same category but look like Ferrari's and Lamborghini's, I always see these cars with 800 miles-1500 miles for sale.

I personally love the M5.

[ezndo]

1 or 2 year lease vehicles with the lessees trying to make a buck?

[Ezio]

i honestly do not like the F10 M5 at all. It doesnt even look much different than a loaded 5 series. nor is it even that great of a car, never really seen that good of reviews. i see them on the dealership lot going to over 100k all day also.

I think overall the F10 M5 was a loser for BMW.

[jaehshim]

Originally Posted by Z K

Maybe it's owners who are bored with the car. Most people who buy/lease high end cars have a lot of money and get bored and trade in their cars for the next best thing or newer style cars.

The M3 attracts a different crowd. It appeals to more enthusiasts than the higher priced M cars.

I think this is true, at least from my experience with local BMW dealers.
I live around towns where people come to my local BMW dealers to buy M cars as "second" or "third" cars (unfortunately, im not even close to that rich lol).
I always see M5 and M6 and the M grand coupe, several Audi RS cars at the used lot, and hear stories from salesperson that they returned the vehicle to get a better, newer car.
At the same time, I always see TOP NOTCH optioned M cars and Alpina B7s, which never stay at the dealer for a long time. They always sell so quickly.

[Need4Speed_Motorsports]

They are going M4

[AlpGolcuklu]

Originally Posted by LarThaL

Can't believe how many 1-2 year old M5/6 are for sale on ebay with less than like 12-15000 miles. A lot of people are dumping M6 gran coupes in less than a year with less than 5000 miles. What's up? Rarely saw this with the M3.

Could feel worst than N/A engine maybe thats the reason.

[BrewRifle]

I think it would be hard to go from a turbo V8 to a turbo I6, but I know the weight difference is HUGE.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Have you driven them? Fast, but absolutely dreadful to try and put that power down on anything but a straight, and even then its tough. They are numb and frankly IMO boring to drive. Plus I am not a fan of the looks of either of them.

When the M5 lost to the S6 and E63 AMG, that should tell you something.

The M5 has lost all comparos to the Panamera GTS which is to be expected since its a precision car.

The M6 last year in MT's best driver's car came in 10th out of 12 cars, and Pobst was quoted saying it was the ANTITHESIS os what BMW M once stood for.

[dmk08]

I drove a non-comp pack F10 for a while and I wasn't very impressed. Fast in a strait line but didn't have the normal bmw feel to it. I like the new F80 a lot more.

[F1Venom]

Buying one of those used is a great deal.

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by F1Venom

Buying one of those used is a great deal.

For sure. But, what are these heavy cars for? I never understood the purpose of powerfull cars that weigh 4,500 pounds

[GotE46M]

Really depends on what you want.. if you want a car that you can daily driver/track then there are alot more choices than the M5. But for 2nd car, weekend around town, prestige, business purpose then this is where you see alot of people with the M5/M6.

[John Tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Ezio

i honestly do not like the F10 M5 at all. It doesnt even look much different than a loaded 5 series. nor is it even that great of a car, never really seen that good of reviews. i see them on the dealership lot going to over 100k all day also.

I think overall the F10 M5 was a loser for BMW.

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

Have you driven them? Fast, but absolutely dreadful to try and put that power down on anything but a straight, and even then its tough. They are numb and frankly IMO boring to drive. Plus I am not a fan of the looks of either of them.

When the M5 lost to the S6 and E63 AMG, that should tell you something.

The M5 has lost all comparos to the Panamera GTS which is to be expected since its a precision car.

The M6 last year in MT's best driver's car came in 10th out of 12 cars, and Pobst was quoted saying it was the ANTITHESIS os what BMW M once stood for.

Man you guys are tough. My father has an M5 which I get to drive often and man, it's such a nice place to be. The steering wheel combined with overall fit and finish is simply outstanding. Has power for days (that I can put down in the corners), and looks aggressive without screaming "look at me".

The M5 was always the "gentleman's supercar" and was never meant to significantly stand out from the pack visually.....only when you hit the gas.

I concur with others who say the people who buy them typically swap cars in the 4k-14k mile range, as they want the newest kid on the block.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by John Tanglewood

Man you guys are tough. My father has an M5 which I get to drive often and man, it's such a nice place to be. The steering wheel combined with overall fit and finish is simply outstanding. Has power for days (that I can put down in the corners), and looks aggressive without screaming "look at me".

The M5 was always the "gentleman's supercar" and was never meant to significantly stand out from the pack visually.....only when you hit the gas.

I concur with others who say the people who buy them typically swap cars in the 4k-14k mile range, as they want the newest kid on the block.

i have always heard negative things about them over the years. I clearly recall people saying they are not selling well either.

its still a nice car though, and i would highly consider taking one over a E92 M3 or F80 M3. but i am not sure i would spend over 100k on one. the car just doesn't appeal to me, there are things about it i would change.

[pkimM3r]

you guys are crazy - i would totally have fun with an f10 m5 at the track getting opposite lock and shredding through 3 sets of tires (maybe more) in one track event.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by SlowSaloonM3

you guys are crazy - i would totally have fun with an f10 m5 at the track getting opposite lock and shredding through 3 sets of tires (maybe more) in one track event.

Yeah, and get outrun by guys in Miatas.

The F10 M5 is not a fun track car. I've never seen one at a track day either.

[MrPrena]

M5 would be a good vehicle for people who wants to have a family sedan, but just want to have a sporty vehicle. It is ideal for road car. I prefer M3 over M5 anyday. However, I do have a toddler so, I would probably shift toward M5 over M3 when my kid turns 12+


Even then, there is always a M3 sedan.

LOOKS: F10>E60
My overall preference: E60>F10

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Z K

Yeah, and get outrun by guys in Miatas.

The F10 M5 is not a fun track car. I've never seen one at a track day either.

you guys are crazy you think a miata will outpace an f10 m5? m

sideways is just as fun as fast laptimes IMO.

granted on smaller tight tracks but i dont even like taking my m3 sedan to a small tight track (eg streets of willow) but at a big track this m5 will haul some serious ass (eg autoclub speedway, the ring, all those tracks in norcal).

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by John Tanglewood

Man you guys are tough. My father has an M5 which I get to drive often and man, it's such a nice place to be. The steering wheel combined with overall fit and finish is simply outstanding. Has power for days (that I can put down in the corners), and looks aggressive without screaming "look at me".

The M5 was always the "gentleman's supercar" and was never meant to significantly stand out from the pack visually.....only when you hit the gas.

I concur with others who say the people who buy them typically swap cars in the 4k-14k mile range, as they want the newest kid on the block.

Its not for me. I cant say the fit and finish or steering wheel is anything special after being in a Panamera and Rapide. My personal pick would be a Panamera GTS because it ACTUALLY drives like a supercar and has the precision and feel that no M car can match. Granted its not as fast, but it sounds infinitely better, I like the unique looks and the fit and finish is something BMW cannot contend with.
Looked at an M6 with my dad and end of the day he went with another Cayenne as a DD, but instead of a GTS this time a Turbo, and he just couldnt get over not having as nice of a cabin in the M6 as the Cayenne. Just is on a whole other level especialyl with the two tone full leather interior.