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      11-28-2012, 12:31 AM   #1
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Michelin PSS or Nitto NT-05?

I had NT-05's on my Cayman S and was pretty happy with them. The rears survived about 18k miles with 6 autocross days and 2 track days before they were down to the wear bars. They had great traction right up to the end. My last hurrah with them was a track day at Watkins Glen.

I'm switching shortly over to my winter tires, but am already planning on my wheel/tire combo for the Spring.

Although I liked the NT-05's, they did get pretty noisy towards the end. I actually didn't mind the ride quality either.

However, I understand that the PSS will be superior in terms of ride quality and noise. And wear, I'd assume?

My question is how much grip will I be sacrificing at the track and autocross with the PSS's? That's my main concern, and the very slightly higher price.
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      11-28-2012, 01:05 AM   #2
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This may be of some use in your decision process: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=773023
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      11-28-2012, 10:36 AM   #3
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Interesting, and I'm guessing you're in a more advanced run group?

I just was recently solo'd so I still have a long ways to go...

That said, I loved the grip on the NT-05's! The only time it was an issue was at Lime Rock when they were newer (~300 miles) and were a little greasy in tight transitions.
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This may be of some use in your decision process: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=773023
I would have to agree on the AD08 and RE11. Ran both before, the Bridgestones grip very good but get greasy faster than the AD08. Also, the RE11 is the same tire compound as the previous RE01R, they just re-engineered the tread pattern to make it work better. I would say the AD08 is the best street tire I've run for track use. They are also very civil for daily street use, quiet and responsive in the wet but very stiff.

Never ran the PSS before but I have a set on order! Hopefully doesn't get greasy as fast as the RE11. Given the treadwear rating, my expectations are not very high...
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I had NT05s on a previous car and I have PSS on my E90. I loooved the turn-in and response of the NT05 and comfort was excellent until you get about halfway through the tread and then they get real loud. If I were a track regular I would definitely consider the NT05 again and it doesn't hurt that they're pretty cheap. Terrible wet tire though.
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PSS are worth every dollar. ride smooth and quite and have great traction.
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PSS are worth every dollar. ride smooth and quite and have great traction.
Huge fan of the PSS as an all-around summer tire. I have done track days, autocrosses, and mountain cruises and have loved every minute. They are also the Car & Driver's Monsters of Grip Winner:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
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I am leaning towards the PSS. Slightly more expensive than the NT05, but should last almost twice as long.
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I've been using NT05 as my DD and my track tire.... I like them a lot..
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tires

i just purchased pss's after reviewing a few different tires and read whatever i could find on the topic. sounds like both are pretty good options.
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18k with 8 track days or so included? Sorry your PSS will last maybe 5k with 8 track days if that
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18k with 8 track days or so included? Sorry your PSS will last maybe 5k with 8 track days if that
6 autocross days + 2 track days does not equal 8 track days. Autocross is nothing.
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