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      12-17-2009, 08:06 AM   #1
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I need some help (serious)

My company received an email from someone at 14:40 time. Thats what is stated on the Email under date and it was sent from Yahoo and received on our Hot mail account.

I need to prove that this email was sent at 14:40 as the sender is stating that it was sent much earlier but that his computer time was wrong or set to pacific time.

Can someone help me out by showing me how to prove the email was in fact sent at 14:40... Thank you in advance.
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      12-17-2009, 08:31 AM   #2
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Doesn't the time-stamp on incoming emails show as what time it's received (according to your computer's settings)?
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      12-17-2009, 08:57 AM   #3
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Doesn't the time-stamp on incoming emails show as what time it's received (according to your computer's settings)?
Yes. But the other person is saying that the time is wrong.
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Not sure how you can prove this either way as it is possible to have a lag between sent and recieved times on occasion. But maybe I am missing something. Yahoo and Hotmail are both online email accounts. What does that have to do with either his or your computer time?
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      12-17-2009, 10:03 AM   #5
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In Outlook, with a message open, you can select View, Options. You'll then actually see the header trailer info. As an example, a message I got yesterday:

Received: from g1u1301c.austin.hp.com (g1u1301c.austin.hp.com [16.236.86.4])
by g1t0038.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443AE301B5
for <me>; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:45:56 +0000 (UTC)

If you continue scrolling down, you will see the origination time of the message. Of course, this is the easy way with Outlook. It only shows the first time the SERVER got the message. Without access to the originating server's console, you can't tell how well the server is set on it's time.

If I were using Outlook in an offline mode, I could write a message at 6:30 a.m., but the server wouldn't see it until I connect the next time (noon or something). So in effect I *sent* the message at 6:30, but the message didn't travel until I connected at noon.

Good luck with "proving" this if it becomes something of a legal issue. There are so many variable that have to be addressed, and unless you can seize a bunch of computers to look at them, it could have all changed by now.

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      12-17-2009, 11:38 AM   #6
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Make sure the time offsets for the servers do not change. Depending on your timezone it could be minus 5 up to minus 8 for time compared to GMT.
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Take a screen shot of the email?
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Check the actual email header it will display the email messages as its bounced between email server. Part of that message is a time stamp of when the email server received it and the time zone that email server is in. Doesnt matter what the senders computer time or the receivers computer time is.
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Thank you very much for the help. The issue has been resolved.
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