Quick question about M3 tach - why do only some have the shift lights?

[armyav8tor]

Originally Posted by sameh

Am I the only one who realized that you are being sarcastic. I Donno why everybody else is attacking you. Obviously you're saying to MT guys:
F1 cars have clutchless shifting
F1 cars have shift lights.

+1, It was pretty obvious to me he was being a smart ass.

[luis_m3]

Originally Posted by armyav8tor

1, It was pretty obvious to me he was being a smart ass.

My fault... I just wasn't sure
Oh, and BTW... I LOVE my shiftlights, i can always see them without taking my eyes from the road as mentioned before.

[sheepboy]

Originally Posted by 09'135iFREAK

You obviously have never seen F1 . You might be thinking of redneck racing or some other crap. They don't have a tach at all. Unless they can get it displayed on the steering wheel some how. They use the lights on the top of the steering wheel and I am sure feel and sound. Here is a website for others out there who also have never seen F1 either.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/04/22/steering-wheels/

I am afraid you are the one who knows nothing about F1. And contrary to what some have suggested, I am not being sarcastic, I am dead serious. The picture below should put an end to this discussion!

6MT, physical clutch pedal, physical stick shift and no shift lights FTW!!!!!! Just like in Formula 1

[armyav8tor]

Originally Posted by sheepboy

I am afraid you are the one who knows nothing about F1. And contrary to what some have suggested, I am not being sarcastic, I am dead serious. The picture below should put an end to this discussion!

6MT, physical clutch pedal, physical stick shift and no shift lights FTW!!!!!! Just like in Formula 1

[Chris M4CS]

Originally Posted by sheepboy

I am afraid you are the one who knows nothing about F1. And contrary to what some have suggested, I am not being sarcastic, I am dead serious. The picture below should put an end to this discussion!

6MT, physical clutch pedal, physical stick shift and no shift lights FTW!!!!!! Just like in Formula 1

I'm not sure where you got that picture, but I don't think it's an F1 car! That tach only goes to 11000 rpm and current engines rev to 18K...that tach would be useless in an F1 car!

[Chris M4CS]

Also a simple search on F1's official site will show you that gearboxes in F1 are paddle-shifted sequential units.

Engine/Gearbox

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by sameh

Am I the only one who realized that you are being sarcastic. I Donno why everybody else is attacking you. Obviously you're saying to MT guys:
F1 cars have clutchless shifting
F1 cars have shift lights.

sameh someone is attacking me? or did you mean sheepboy should I hire a bodyguard? do tell

[ThunderMoose]

Originally Posted by Chris'_m3

I'm not sure where you got that picture, but I don't think it's an F1 car! That tach only goes to 11000 rpm and current engines rev to 18K...that tach would be useless in an F1 car!

Originally Posted by Rolf-Dieter

sameh someone is attacking me? or did you mean sheepboy should I hire a bodyguard? do tell

i think he meant sheepboy

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by BMW Fanatic

In 3 days time this thread will have expanded to about 11 pages of DCT vs MT 'debates'.

Please don't say that don't even think it

Originally Posted by Ateam

DCT is way faster so no need to argue about it

That may be then we don't get bored at all not meant to be a cheap shot just stating the facts.

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by ThunderMoose

i think he meant sheepboy

He better or I come after him with a wet noodle then he may have to hire a body guard on the other hand he might like noodles like I do

[ThunderMoose]

Originally Posted by Rolf-Dieter

He better or I come after him with a wet noodle then he may have to hire a body guard on the other hand he might like noodles like I do

is wet noodle a euphemism?

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by sheepboy

I am afraid you are the one who knows nothing about F1. And contrary to what some have suggested, I am not being sarcastic, I am dead serious. The picture below should put an end to this discussion!

6MT, physical clutch pedal, physical stick shift and no shift lights FTW!!!!!! Just like in Formula 1

just look at all them dials and numbers ... might he need a co-driver like a good pilot needs a bombardier?

I would be lost with all them dials and lights ... then I am older and go by sound and feel no need for all them dials and lights

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by ThunderMoose

is wet noodle a euphemism?

Nah (it's meant as a joke) it's a saying my wife uses in stores after she bargained a price for something she purchased and does not really need she tells the salesman "You better be right or I come after you with a wet noodle"

[K-M3]

Originally Posted by Ateam

DCT is way faster so no need to argue about it

oh boy!!!!!! here we go.......... I thought MT was way more fun and involving........ ;-))

[motortrend]

[sheepboy]

Originally Posted by Chris'_m3

I'm not sure where you got that picture, but I don't think it's an F1 car! That tach only goes to 11000 rpm and current engines rev to 18K...that tach would be useless in an F1 car!

Wow! I was expecting a little more from such a knowlageable crowd... To fall for a grossly altered F1 steering wheel picture and a couple of sarcastic remarks from a guy who owns a M3 with DCT (on my signature)... Disappointing.

Now, to say that shift lights are useless is just nonsense. Nearly all (if not all) racing cars and the vast majority of performance-oriented cars have them. The fact that one can keep both eyes on the road/track and use peripheral vision to know exactly when to change gears, every time, under any condition, is a no-brainer. To even suggest that one is better off "feeling the engine" or looking down at the rev counter for the redline is just silly. And I am not even talking about the 6MT vs DCT thing.

I wonder what is the next argument from the 6MT guys?
- ABS is for people who do not know how to pump the brakes.
- EDC is for people who do not know how to appreciate the mechanical feel of leaf springs.
- Airbags are for pussies afraid of a of dying in a car crash.

PS. Below is the unaltered picture of a F1 steering wheel (BMW Sauber), with the shift lights on the top and no tach.

[Chris M4CS]

Well I feel terrible that I fell for your little prank, but releived too! And of course, looking at the picture some more, I really can't beleive I fell for it. But with some of the things I see people post on here, I wonder some times.

[mkoesel]

What I want to know is why did they stop with just shift lights?

I want brake lights to know when I should apply the brake, acceleration lights so I know when to hit the gas pedal, mirror lights to help remind me to check the mirror, and a turn light so I know when to put on my signal and make a turn.

I also want food lights so I don't forget to eat. And a shit light, so I don't forget to take a dump. I don't need a beer light - that's not something I need to be reminded of. But I would like a tail light to notify me of any hot piece of ass in the area.

Had a bad college roomate with a night light that came on like every few minutes. I was like "what with the light?". He said - "That's my masturbation light. It comes on to remind me to rub one out." So, I shot him.