Evolve M3 vs Stg 3 335i

M3Alpine · 07-23-2011, 03:36 PM

im impressed ! get a full catless xpipe and a set of pullies with a retune and do it again !

Bomis · 07-24-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Alpine

im impressed ! get a full catless xpipe and a set of pullies with a retune and do it again !

I Will!

Sales@Evolve · 07-29-2011, 06:46 PM

Have been looking at these videos very closely and especially noting if the 335i from which both videos has infact got the same time between gearchanges as this shows consistent acceleration.

In both it's the same so the 335i is definately running consistently.

An extra 300rpm and genuine 15-20 hp can make a huge difference in the real world. That additional 300rpm allows higher power to be made at the gear changing points. The difference is really noticed where the most gearchanges are made.

More tests like this need to be conducted but now stock M3 vs tuned M3.

Like I posted in the other current thread..... watch this space!

Simrokkzz · 07-31-2011, 06:38 AM

looks good - but what gain to be expected from gitane axle back?

what power puts such an 335i to the wheels and what torque?

Bomis · 07-31-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Simrokkzz

looks good - but what gain to be expected from gitane axle back?

what power puts such an 335i to the wheels and what torque?

Puts down around 350-380 rwhp depending on wich dyno is used and around 550-600 NM

CarleeSWE · 08-03-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Simrokkzz

looks good - but what gain to be expected from gitane axle back?

what power puts such an 335i to the wheels and what torque?

A friend if mine dynoed his 335ia with similar setup(same software) and got 38X hp on the wheels, But not sure about the torque.

Has Evolve released any stage3 software for 335?? After this season I'm switching my PROcede for a flash.

Next event is in 3 weeks

mPlasticDesign · 08-03-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul@Evolve

I know the Evolve one is 6MT. Not sure about the other

ETA: Just had confirmation both are indeed manual cars.

Really? Maybe I'm not totally familiar with the 335 interior but this looks like the car has a steering wheel equipped with paddles, hence an auto. Maybe someone else can chime in?

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Sales@Evolve · 08-03-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Metak

Really? Maybe I'm not totally familiar with the 335 interior but this looks like the car has a steering wheel equipped with paddles, hence an auto. Maybe someone else can chime in?

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I think he means both M3's were 6MT.

CarleeSWE · 08-03-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Metak

Really? Maybe I'm not totally familiar with the 335 interior but this looks like the car has a steering wheel equipped with paddles, hence an auto. Maybe someone else can chime in?

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Yea that is my car, 335 steptronic

Taz@Evolve. P · 08-03-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CarleeSWE

A friend if mine dynoed his 335ia with similar setup(same software) and got 38X hp on the wheels, But not sure about the torque.

Has Evolve released any stage3 software for 335?? After this season I'm switching my PROcede for a flash.

Next event is in 3 weeks

Yep, we have a stage 3 for the 335i, here's a dyno using our own intercooler and catless DP (it's supposed to say Stage 3 not 2):

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Originally Posted by Sal@Evolve

I think he means both M3's were 6MT.

Exactly

mPlasticDesign · 08-03-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CarleeSWE

Yea that is my car, 335 steptronic

Thanks.

Dodge2Dub · 08-03-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by erm324

The m3 needs FBO and a catless setup to be able to hang with high boost FBO 335s (given they have race gas, meth, or both)

FBO?

Dodge2Dub · 08-03-2011, 02:56 PM

Evolve, is there any way of deleting the records showing that the vehicle revved past the OE redline in the unfortunate case of an engine failure?

turbo8765 · 08-04-2011, 07:49 AM

It baffles me how people start in 2nd at 50km in an e92. You should really be in first. That goes for both the 6mt and the dct. I've owned both. (Note that first is slightly taller in the 6mt)

2nd at 50km/hr is not a good spot in the power band. For the 335, and many other cars, 2nd gear at 50km/hr is nearly ideal. Most motors taper on the top end MUCH more than the s65.

The power band is such that the lowest possible gear is the fastest in 98% of situations.

My point is that it's generally not a fair race when an e92 races most any other car from 50km/hr with both cars in second gear.

Rshane · 08-04-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodge2Dub

FBO?

Frickin Big Output...I think. Maybe people are just making up acronyms now. Might be Full Bolt Ons too, but who knows.

NJBMWM3 · 08-04-2011, 11:46 AM

pretty sure its Full Bolt Ons

erm324 · 08-04-2011, 12:42 PM

Full bolt ons...also, M3 should be starting at a Higher rpm.... 4500 anything less is giving the race away

0-60Motorsports · 08-04-2011, 01:28 PM

Awesome results Paul! Sal is an awesome tuner as well as a gentleman. Thanks for your service and tune, my car runs gorgeously smooth on the tune Sal did for me on the dyno.

MegaLoL · 08-04-2011, 05:59 PM

I raced tonight with evo IX and X. Both 450-460hp. I have Evolve flash. I was faster almost everytime

. From 60-70 km/h second gear. At 180-200kmh/ I was always ahead even I had late start

. Thank you Evolve crew !!

Taz@Evolve. P · 08-05-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports

Awesome results Paul! Sal is an awesome tuner as well as a gentleman. Thanks for your service and tune, my car runs gorgeously smooth on the tune Sal did for me on the dyno.

He is indeed

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Originally Posted by MegaLoL

I raced tonight with evo IX and X. Both 450-460hp. I have Evolve flash. I was faster almost everytime

. From 60-70 km/h second gear. At 180-200kmh/ I was always ahead even I had late start

. Thank you Evolve crew !!

Great to hear!

Dodge2Dub · 08-05-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodge2Dub

Evolve, is there any way of deleting the records showing that the vehicle revved past the OE redline in the unfortunate case of an engine failure?

Is the answer no?

07-23-2011, 03:36 PM	#23
M3Alpine Lieutenant Colonel 52 Rep 1,512 Posts Drives: M4 AW/SO Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (11)	im impressed ! get a full catless xpipe and a set of pullies with a retune and do it again ! __________________ 2002 AW/IR : Sold 2004 AW/BLK : Sold 2009 AW/FR : Sold 2015 AW/SO
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07-29-2011, 06:46 PM	#25
Sales@Evolve BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 92 Rep 1,064 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luton, Bedfordshire iTrader: (0)	Have been looking at these videos very closely and especially noting if the 335i from which both videos has infact got the same time between gearchanges as this shows consistent acceleration. In both it's the same so the 335i is definately running consistently. An extra 300rpm and genuine 15-20 hp can make a huge difference in the real world. That additional 300rpm allows higher power to be made at the gear changing points. The difference is really noticed where the most gearchanges are made. More tests like this need to be conducted but now stock M3 vs tuned M3. Like I posted in the other current thread..... watch this space!
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07-31-2011, 06:38 AM	#26
Simrokkzz Private 1 Rep 92 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	looks good - but what gain to be expected from gitane axle back? what power puts such an 335i to the wheels and what torque?
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08-03-2011, 02:56 PM	#35
Dodge2Dub Captain 36 Rep 910 Posts Drives: E90 M3; Ducati Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (6)	Evolve, is there any way of deleting the records showing that the vehicle revved past the OE redline in the unfortunate case of an engine failure? __________________ E90 M3: Some cool stuff...more to come Ducati 1199 Panigale: Bucket full of mods
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08-04-2011, 07:49 AM	#36
turbo8765 Captain 61 Rep 776 Posts Drives: very fast Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: US iTrader: (0)	It baffles me how people start in 2nd at 50km in an e92. You should really be in first. That goes for both the 6mt and the dct. I've owned both. (Note that first is slightly taller in the 6mt) 2nd at 50km/hr is not a good spot in the power band. For the 335, and many other cars, 2nd gear at 50km/hr is nearly ideal. Most motors taper on the top end MUCH more than the s65. The power band is such that the lowest possible gear is the fastest in 98% of situations. My point is that it's generally not a fair race when an e92 races most any other car from 50km/hr with both cars in second gear.
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08-04-2011, 11:46 AM	#38
NJBMWM3 Private First Class 6 Rep 134 Posts Drives: e92 //M3 6speed Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	pretty sure its Full Bolt Ons
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08-04-2011, 12:42 PM	#39
erm324 Major 122 Rep 1,202 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (1)	Full bolt ons...also, M3 should be starting at a Higher rpm.... 4500 anything less is giving the race away
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08-04-2011, 01:28 PM	#40
0-60Motorsports Brigadier General 792 Rep 3,151 Posts Drives: BMW M3 JB 04 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kingdom of Bahrain iTrader: (1)	Awesome results Paul! Sal is an awesome tuner as well as a gentleman. Thanks for your service and tune, my car runs gorgeously smooth on the tune Sal did for me on the dyno. __________________ Current Mods: 2004 E46 M3cs JB/CSL 2010 E70 X5M AW/BLACK 2011 VW Golf R DSG White/Black IG: @060Motorsports
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08-04-2011, 05:59 PM	#41
MegaLoL New Member 9 Rep 19 Posts Drives: M3 DCT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	I raced tonight with evo IX and X. Both 450-460hp. I have Evolve flash. I was faster almost everytime. From 60-70 km/h second gear. At 180-200kmh/ I was always ahead even I had late start . Thank you Evolve crew !!
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