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[Sam_Fisher]

Hi guys, besides taking off the wheel and put it on a scale, what are the ways of telling a cheap, heavy replica 220M from a the stock real 220M?

[Dellort_M3]

Trust me, youll know.

[ailikesiliu]

dude, r u going to buy a set?

[Sam_Fisher]

No, a friend of mine is looking at a set being sold in town, but isn't sure if they are indeed as authentic as advertised.

[M3SQRD]

On the back of each wheel near the mounting pad/face there should be the BMW logo and/or "BMW" as well as the wheel width and offset.

[ailikesiliu]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ

No, a friend of mine is looking at a set being sold in town, but isn't sure if they are indeed as authentic as advertised.

i see. i got a set in my storage as well. if u wanna come take a look, lmk.

[Dellort_M3]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ

No, a friend of mine is looking at a set being sold in town, but isn't sure if they are indeed as authentic as advertised.

The reps Ive seen personally dont look anything like the real oem ones. You should be able to tell. One of the main reasons for making these reps is the fitment, so majority of 220M reps you see are 18". Also, inbetween the spokes, the reps are painted black instead of the dark gunmetal finish oem ones have. The wheels are relatively cheap anyways, so I doubt anyone went out and made an exact replica.

[kmarei]

As far as I know
Most reps have 3 series offsets
They will be in the 30-40 offset range
m3 wheels usually are in the mid 20s

Think about it
You're going to do all your tooling for a limited production car?
Or to target every 328/335 out there?

[Sam_Fisher]

Great info guy, many thanks!

bbs_lm, I see you are in Vancouver too. Once weather gets better, we should perhaps organize a local meet.

[kitw]

Most of the reps I've seen don't have the machined face/painted insides and barrels like the stock ones. But, it can be hard to tell, when in doubt, run away.

[ailikesiliu]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ

Great info guy, many thanks!

bbs_lm, I see you are in Vancouver too. Once weather gets better, we should perhaps organize a local meet.

dude. I am sure u know me. lol.

[Sam_Fisher]

Originally Posted by bbs_lm

dude. I am sure u know me. lol.

LOL what? So the plot thickens. Are you on VS? RS? I only know Alex1988 who used to drive a E46 and now has a E92. You are not Alex. Or are you lol.

[ailikesiliu]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ

LOL what? So the plot thickens. Are you on VS? RS? I only know Alex1988 who used to drive a E46 and now has a E92. You are not Alex. Or are you lol.

haha. yes i am. i just changed my username. let's hang out sometime!
did u started modding your car yet?

[Sam_Fisher]

Originally Posted by bbs_lm

haha. yes i am. i just changed my username. let's hang out sometime!
did u started modding your car yet?

For sure man, we'll meet up once weather gets better.

Stock notes are too quiet for me, I'll be looking at A / E exhausts soon. But I want one with double-walled tips.

[ailikesiliu]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ

For sure man, we'll meet up once weather gets better.

Stock notes are too quiet for me, I'll be looking at A / E exhausts soon. But I want one with double-walled tips.

I see. I know a local guy selling his slightly used akra evo for a very good price. let me know if u want his number.
I am still looking for a eisenmann sport, do not want ir too loud for a DD.

[Sam_Fisher]

Originally Posted by bbs_lm

I see. I know a local guy selling his slightly used akra evo for a very good price. let me know if u want his number.
I am still looking for a eisenmann sport, do not want ir too loud for a DD.

Me too. I've been looking at Eisenmann as well. My understand is Eisenmann Sport is the quietest of them all (relatively).

I wont a louder rumble in lower RPMs, but still want to retain that high pitch sound towards redline. I know Youtube isn't the most reliable source, but the clips I've seen for Eisenmann Sport sounded quite like what I'm after.

One thing I like about (any) stock tips is the chrome double wall finish. Many aftermarket ones has thinner walls, which is a turn-off for me.

I was reading up on IND's site:

http://www.ind-distribution.com/cata...%20M3%5E65.php

Not sure what they mean by "perforated tips" ?

[ailikesiliu]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ

Me too. I've been looking at Eisenmann as well. My understand is Eisenmann Sport is the quietest of them all (relatively).

I wont a louder rumble in lower RPMs, but still want to retain that high pitch sound towards redline. I know Youtube isn't the most reliable source, but the clips I've seen for Eisenmann Sport sounded quite like what I'm after.

One thing I like about (any) stock tips is the chrome double wall finish. Many aftermarket ones has thinner walls, which is a turn-off for me.

I was reading up on IND's site:

http://www.ind-distribution.com/cata...%20M3%5E65.php

Not sure what they mean by "perforated tips" ?

Perforated tips are those ones with little holes on the inside. My e46 has eisenmann sport on it and i think it is perfect for a DD. It has no drone at all and i am still missing the high pitch sound when you redline it.
Here is what perforated tips look like:

[Sam_Fisher]

Ah. I knew perforated means holes punched, but didn't notice until you posted the picture that the holes are on the inside of the tip, but are not visible from outside.

I assume these holes alter the notes a bit, VS the non-perforated tips?

From this picture, it looks like the wall of the tip is pretty thin eh. I guess they don't have double-walled tips.

[ailikesiliu]

Originally Posted by FairladyZ

Ah. I knew perforated means holes punched, but didn't notice until you posted the picture that the holes are on the inside of the tip, but are not visible from outside.

I assume these holes alter the notes a bit, VS the non-perforated tips?

From this picture, it looks like the wall of the tip is pretty thin eh. I guess they don't have double-walled tips.

There should be a slightly difference in sound due to the perforated tips, but not much. The one I had on my E46 have perforated tips, I did not notice any sound difference compare to others. The thing with eisenmann is that you won't get much weight savings compare to stock, they are quite heavy mufflers too. Also if you looking to get double-walled tips, have u checked the remus sport? there is one for sale in the private section, sounds not bad too.

[bosse92m3]

Hey guys please let me know thought on if real or fake

[dparm]

Originally Posted by bosse92m3

Hey guys please let me know thought on if real or fake

Read the above posts. They explain the very obvious signs, such as no BMW part numbers & logos and incorrect coloring on the sides of the spokes.

[bosse92m3]

Originally Posted by dparm

Read the above posts. They explain the very obvious signs, such as no BMW part numbers & logos and incorrect coloring on the sides of the spokes.

Thanks I have read them but the problem is these were the only photos sent to me by the seller and I posted seeing if anyone could tell by seeing them.