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      08-04-2011, 10:32 AM   #441
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Both front and rear kits use pad shapes that have been around for a very long time. Below is what I have notes on as far as pads go in alphabetical order. There are undoubtedly more.

-- Front --
AP Racing H100 Hybrid, C200, C300 (new compounds coming soon)
Carbotech (order D51 depth, not D54) 1521, AX6, XP8, XP10, XP12, XP16
CL (Carbon Lorraine) RC8
Cobalt XR1, XR2, XR3, XR4, XR5, CSR, ER1, ER2
Ferodo DS2500, DS3000, DS1.11, DS2.11
Hawk HPS, HP Plus, Perf. Ceramic, DTC-30, DTC-60, DTC-70
Mintex Xtreme Motorsport (F3R track compound should be available soon)
Pagid RS4-2-1, RS4-2, RS 14, RS 5, RS 19, RS 29
Performance Friction 97, 01, 05, 07
Porterfield R4-S, R41
Raybestos ST41, ST43, ST44, ST45, ST47

-- Rear --
AP Racing H100 Hybrid, C200, C300 (new compounds coming soon)
Carbotech (order D55 depth) 1521, AX6, XP8, XP10, XP12, XP16
CL (Carbon Lorraine) RC8
Cobalt XR1, XR2, XR3, XR4, XR5, CSR, ER1, ER2
Ferodo DS2500, DS3000, DS1.11, DS2.11
Hawk HPS, HP Plus, Perf. Ceramic, DTC-30, DTC-60
Mintex Xtreme Motorsport, F6R (F3R track compound should be available soon)
Pagid RS4-2-1, RS4-2, RS 14, RS 5, RS 19, RS 29
Performance Friction 97, 01, 05, 07
Porterfield R4-S, R41
Raybestos ST41, ST43, ST44, ST45, ST47

I will add to this list as I get more confirmations (and as time allows!). Remember, not all pads are stocked by all distributors at all times. The popular ones get more love whether any one person likes them better or not. Plan ahead for track days in case they need to be ordered so you don't get caught out.

Note: Pad availability does not constitute an endorsement. Discuss pad selection with professionals who understand your driving style and the tracks you will be driving on.

Chris
So have ppl been able to find the above pads easily?
I ordered RS29s a few months ago, still waiting....
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      08-05-2011, 01:01 PM   #442
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Anyone know if the front AP BBK pads are the same as the StopTech ST-60 pads up front?
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      08-05-2011, 02:54 PM   #443
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Thank you for all the information Chris. i just installed the AP Stillen kit on my E92. What is the minimum service width for the front and rear rotors? What is the maximum pad thickness that the calipers can accomadate with new rotors?
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Anyone know if the front AP BBK pads are the same as the StopTech ST-60 pads up front?
Not the same!Jaypods pads are different than mine.
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Not the same!Jaypods pads are different than mine.
Thanks!!
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You might want to send a PM to Chris Bernal (member Chris__B with a double underscore, formerly of Stillen Brake Pros) and ask him that question. PAGID RACING lists the same pad for the ST60 and the CP5555 (the CP5555 uses the AP CP3894 pad outline). It's possible the difference is minor, like one has a cutout for a pad sensor and the other does not.

It's too bad RS29's have become hard to get. I bought a two-axle set of RS29's from stock at TRG back just after I got my AP BBK in 2009. Stock was no problem back then. I was happy enough with the Mintex pads, so I sold that set still new and unused to another forum member last year when I sold off my M3 upgrades.
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what would you guys suggest for track pads. i'm thinking of getting the f3r front and f6r rears. where would be the best place to get em?

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what would you guys suggest for track pads. i'm thinking of getting the f3r front and f6r rears. where would be the best place to get em?

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You can use the F3R up front with the standard Mintex Extreme pad in the rear. Jaypod uses this set up.
I'm going to try that until my RS29s come in.
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You can use the F3R up front with the standard Mintex Extreme pad in the rear. Jaypod uses this set up.
I'm going to try that until my RS29s come in.
won't that affect the brake bias?
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also, how do you change the pads? is it those 2 screws atop the caliper? is the size 6mm?
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won't that affect the brake bias?
AP recommended that set up to us on the this thread. So much of our breaking comes from the front end anyways.
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i called brake pros (stillen) they suggested f3r front f6r rear.
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i called brake pros (stillen) they suggested f3r front f6r rear.
Chris from AP was the one that suggested it, and a few members have used the set up. Hopefully one of them will chime in.
I ordered the F3Rs, will be here next week. I will be going to Mosport in a few weeks, and I will be running the F3Rs up front and the Mintex Extreme pads in the rear.
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i called brake pros (stillen) they suggested f3r front f6r rear.

I have been using the F3R and Mintex Xtreme on the rears with no issues. Pad wear on the rear is still fairly minimal and balance is very good. I used this setup based on Stillen's recommendation and am very happy with it. The plus is only changing the front pads for track days.
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I have been using the F3R and Mintex Xtreme on the rears with no issues. Pad wear on the rear is still fairly minimal and balance is very good. I used this setup based on Stillen's recommendation and am very happy with it. The plus is only changing the front pads for track days.
im thinking of this...cuz it would save me bout 350$+shipping....+duty.

where did u guys get f3r? anywhere cheap? they quoted me 424
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I am on my second set of F3Rs (use Mintex xtreme in back). No complaints other than I ran though the first set in 5-6 events. I get uneven pad wear so now will be able to mix and match which should help.
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i need to know what the size of the screws to change the pads in the front are, if anyone can help. thanks
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im thinking of this...cuz it would save me bout 350$+shipping....+duty.

where did u guys get f3r? anywhere cheap? they quoted me 424
I actually bought mine at my dealer (Budds BMW), I am not sure they were cheap, cant remember off the top of my head but thought around $500

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i need to know what the size of the screws to change the pads in the front are, if anyone can help. thanks
I will check my tool bag tomorrow - cant remember - 7mm maybe, since I use it all the time I have it set aside and never look at the size. The rears are just friction pins.
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I actually bought mine at my dealer (Budds BMW), I am not sure they were cheap, cant remember off the top of my head but thought around $500



I will check my tool bag tomorrow - cant remember - 7mm maybe, since I use it all the time I have it set aside and never look at the size. The rears are just friction pins.
what are these? How do u remove these? Not familiar with this. Appreciate your help
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what are these? How do u remove these? Not familiar with this. Appreciate your help
They don't need to be unscrewed. Basically you can just use a punch or similar tool to tap them out and pull the pins out from the back of the caliper. To replace you just push the pins through the back and tap them back into place. Fairly simple and doesn't take too much time.
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lemme know if you ever get the chance to check the size.

also wanted to know, do i need to bed in the f3r pads? or just pop them in and go? would it smart or moronic to drive to the track with these pads?
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Just saw this and reminded me to check. Its 6mm. Yes you need to bed the pads. I have driven on them to and from the track as well as for a few days when I know I have another track day. They do start to get a little noisy once they clean up the rotors after a track day. I just drove to Watkins Glen for an event to and from with the F3R pads on the front.
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