Let's stop talking about 'Ring times

CSanto · 10-28-2009, 03:26 PM

I searched around to see if this was going to be a repost, but I couldn't find anything.

This article is over a year old as well as a rather lengthy read, but it will definitely get you second guessing these ring times. (If you aren't already)

http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/1...itter-porsche/

Enjoy.

FStop7 · 10-28-2009, 06:24 PM

I agree, the ring time comparisons are masturbation and not very scientific.

foosh · 10-28-2009, 06:24 PM

Great article!!! Thanks.

URBAN LEGEND · 10-28-2009, 07:00 PM

All I will say is that if my M3 does well on the Ring then it will do well at 50 percent of the speed in Maryland.

JC919 · 10-28-2009, 07:02 PM

But I like endlessly arguing about ring times

swamp2 · 10-28-2009, 10:18 PM

Great article but (haven't whipped this one out in some time..)

epbrown · 10-28-2009, 10:24 PM

It's nice to follow them, but seriously, who buys a car based on them, or any other track times?

Dr.G · 10-29-2009, 12:59 AM

very good article ... thx for the post

footie · 10-29-2009, 02:51 AM

World class reporting there.

Reporting HvS's time of 7:50 which wasn't an allout lap and which he himselves reckon he would never get below 7:40 at best to later go on to best that estimate to an impossible time of 7:38.

All I see here is someone trying damn hard to make a name for himself, and I disagree on most of it.

The only thing that is unique about the lap times set by each of these manufacturers is that they were either driving by their head test driver or by a hired race driver.

SenorFunkyPants · 10-29-2009, 03:46 AM

Seems like the reporter guy is a Porsche fan with a bit of a downer on Nissan.
I quite like fastestlaps.com for a broader picture of laptimes and to compare cars.

graider · 10-29-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Seems like the reporter guy is a Porsche fan with a bit of a downer on Nissan.
I quite like fastestlaps.com for a broader picture of laptimes and to compare cars.

+1. I can totally smell the bias in his article toward porsche. lol

SUB-ZERO · 10-29-2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Seems like the reporter guy is a Porsche fan with a bit of a downer on Nissan.
I quite like fastestlaps.com for a broader picture of laptimes and to compare cars.

+1

mkoesel · 10-29-2009, 12:26 PM

Personally I think we need to appoint someone to be Lord of the Ring Times.

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CSanto Brigadier General 636 Rep 3,039 Posts Drives: 2015 BSM/SO M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York iTrader: (3)	Let's stop talking about 'Ring times I searched around to see if this was going to be a repost, but I couldn't find anything. This article is over a year old as well as a rather lengthy read, but it will definitely get you second guessing these ring times. (If you aren't already) http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/1...itter-porsche/ Enjoy.
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FStop7 I like cars 329 Rep 5,052 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury Park, CA iTrader: (3)	I agree, the ring time comparisons are masturbation and not very scientific. __________________ My photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/racelap/
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epbrown Colonel 60 Rep 2,128 Posts Drives: BMW M Coupe, Porsche Boxster S Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	It's nice to follow them, but seriously, who buys a car based on them, or any other track times?
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SenorFunkyPants Brigadier General 2511 Rep 4,381 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Seems like the reporter guy is a Porsche fan with a bit of a downer on Nissan. I quite like fastestlaps.com for a broader picture of laptimes and to compare cars.
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