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Setting aside the ethics discussion (I don't see how that can be resolved on an online forum, and it seems like many people, including myself, have expressed their sentiments on that one), I find myself wondering about what constitutes "spam" on this board. I looked at the FAQs and could not find a definition for it. I don't know if there is a designated "For Sale" area (I can't find that either). My experience with boards like this one tells me one cannot use public forums to market goods/services, which seems to be the motivation for the original post...Can someone shed light on forum usage rules?
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06-13-2007, 07:07 AM | #91 | |
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06-13-2007, 07:25 AM | #92 | |
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"Carpet-bagging refers to outsiders moving in to an area to take advantage of a situation which they believe will yield them gain of some nature. It stems from the time after the American Civil War when people migrated to the southern states to appropriate land or property which had been occupied by the Unionist forces, and was up for grabs. The luggage carried by these people was often made of carpet remnants stitched together, being a cheap strong material, hence carpet-bagging, or carpet-baggers. " So come on then, how is that childish name calling? |
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06-13-2007, 07:49 AM | #93 | |
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Well the first issue with that definition is that I'm not an outsider, I've been a BMW enthusuast since 1984 when my dad brought home his first BMW an 84 533i. I would have been an enthusiast longer, but I was only 5. |
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06-13-2007, 07:59 AM | #94 | |
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I'm afraid you are missing the point somewhat. OK, so you question the 'outsider' part. That's a fairly insignificant part. What about the "taking advantage of a situation which they believe will yield them gain of some nature"? |
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06-13-2007, 08:19 AM | #95 |
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How 'bout just buy the car? Then put it on Ebay with an openning bid right @ MSRP. You will surely get more for it than that, hence effectively selling your spot as you intend to do. In fact you'll probably make a hell of a lot more that way, and you probably won't ever even have to make a payment on the car. It will tie up your credit for a bit I suppose, yes. Or even better: Isn't it the case that you now feel as though you CAN afford this car? Yes that's it! Everyone can discontinue this heated discussion since MBITION has now decided to keep his spot and buy the car. No harm, no foul. Right guys? MBITION is going to make an honest attempt and keep his "promise" to the dealership that he'll purchase and take delivery of one 2008 M3. What happens after that, of course, we cannot say. If he registers a new ID on Ebay and hawks the car right away, well, that would be dirty, awful, rotten, and deceitful! But we'll never know about it, so we can't call him out. Damn, and now what the hell are we going to do with all the soap-boxes lying around here. Good luck, man! |
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06-13-2007, 08:30 AM | #96 | |
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If I can flip my M for a small profit a week after I buy it, am I taking advantage of a supply shortage? Sure. It's a slippery slope. |
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06-13-2007, 08:55 AM | #97 |
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the whole problem would be solved if dealers simply made the spots non transferrable, which they could easily do at any time if they don't already
a "spot" doesn't really guarantee anything at all |
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Let me suggest that anyone who disagrees with selling a spot just stop replying to this thread so that it dies a merciful death. Jousting with Mbition about whether what he is doing is right or not just keeps this post at the top of the board. That is why he (and other recently added members who support him) replies to almost every post, probably including this one.
This is my last post in this thread. |
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06-13-2007, 12:10 PM | #102 |
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06-13-2007, 05:50 PM | #103 |
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Oh yeah, very noble of him. If he's so keen on doing somebody a favour then why not give the profit he makes (if there is any), to charity?
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I've got one too
I put down $500 almost 8 months ago for 2008 M3. Assured it was #2 spot and will be in first allocation. After all the waiting, Im tired and I think Im just guna go get an M6, especially since it isnt coming with SMG.
Soooo, what to do with the M3 spot? I never spoke to the dealer about transferrability. How are they able to prevent me from selling the spot? I could easily order per specifications of my buyer and when the car comes in, I just say "hey, by the way, the car is being put in this name, not mine". If I buy the car and then resell it, there wont be much profit left after I pay sales tax. On the morality of selling spots......Ive owned many BMW's, most of the time Ive paid MSRP. Now its MY turn to profit! Particularly because I will only procede to support the brand more with an even BIGGER purchase. Plus, capitalism is what got me to the station in life where I CAN afford virtually any car I want - nuttin wrong with being a bit of an opportunist. People do it all the time, in every industry (as per examples of the Elmos or playstations). |
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06-14-2007, 02:14 AM | #106 | |
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You are living in the world for the terminally bewildered if you think scalping someone is "doing them a favour" |
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06-14-2007, 02:22 AM | #107 | |
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In that sense BMW dealers are scalping us as well. Why doesn't BMW clamp down on markup? Just because someone is clamping down on an action it does not make that action morally wrong. In this case that action isn't even legally wrong. It's a free market. If someone is willing to pay for that spot then it's his choice. Besides, it doesn't seem like he's trying to make a quick buck. That's my opinion as you are entitled to yours. |
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06-14-2007, 05:39 AM | #109 |
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06-14-2007, 05:42 AM | #110 | |
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Tell me where I have called him a childish name. This is a forum and we are having a debate. When have I said anybody is not allowed to give their opinion? |
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