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06-08-2013, 08:52 PM | #67 |
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What really gets me is that the Nurburgring is plastered all over the initial press kit, it's in the manual, there's now a tracking App for the iPhone, prior gens engines are based on "F-1 Concepts" and all the performance parts descriptions are peppered with motorsports references. Basically giving the impression that it is okay to track this car...and then you have a disclaimer and run into extremely heavy resistance at the dealers for any type of claim. Think it's a terrible marketing strategy and really non-defensible. Ford's approach is 100% correct.
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06-08-2013, 09:42 PM | #68 |
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No disrespect, but why post to an M3 thread about how much better a Mustang is and then complain about not getting congratulations from people you don't know?
Just sayin...
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And their obsession with the 'Ring is about what? Catching Porsche. Porsche who has a zillion year heritage of building the ultimate sports cars and yet... They also have a minefield of a track policy (Ive owned two 911s over the years and have been *very* careful b/c of this). It's hardly a unique proposition. People like to know that the car they're buying is "motorsports derived", but 99% of them arent ever going anywhere *near* a racetrack. I do think the manufacturers should offer an upcharge for "track coverage" or something though. A box you can check, pay more, and then have everything covered. That would be a lot more fair/honest IMO. Last edited by mlambert890; 06-08-2013 at 11:07 PM.. |
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Half the time when someone comes to "Vs..." and posts something like this (meaning "sold M3 to buy XYZ"), 90% of the posts are super supportive and often even go so far as to crap all over the /// like it was a shitbox. Not even *balanced* really, pure "this thing dominates ///" type commentary. Then a few people will go over the top and crap on the "visiting" car (admittedly usually in a ridiculous way) and the OP and supporters will *laser* focus on those posts and make it sound like every BMW owner on earth mobilized to "disrespect" car XYZ. Thats how it tends to go here, from my casual observation. Psychologically I find it *real* weird. When I sell off a car (happens a LOT) I vanish from the forum or post neutral type crap. I have no need for the crew Im *leaving behind* (who are presumably fans of the car I sold) to be in love with and validate my *new* purchase and join me in bitching about whatever it is that made me sell (because theres usually *some* reason beyond boredom - I even sold a GTR *GASP!!!* ) To the OP. Congrats on the Boss! It's badass. One of the best modern Mustangs and, IMO, more desirable than the GT500. The response here has been pretty damn good IMO, in case you think it hasnt been. Last edited by mlambert890; 06-08-2013 at 11:12 PM.. |
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06-08-2013, 11:19 PM | #71 |
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After a careful checkout at the dealer (problem not possible to duplicate on the street), Ford sent out a radiator that they use in their race Mustangs, no charge of course. He'll see this summer if the problem is completely cured (so far so good), but that's a hell of good attitude from Ford, in my opinion. Having said all that, it seems the 1LE Camaro may be a better track bet than either the Boss or the Bimmer. Slower than either in a straight line, but quicker than either on track - and short money, too. Other than the gun slit windows, what's not to like? Bruce |
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From a former boss owner, enjoy it! Had I had the monies it would still in my collection!
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The boss 302 LS/ non LS are great cars! If track and performance were my biggest goals, then i would stay far and far away from M3. They are not the best for the money, and very costly to mod.
I got a M3 because i don't see the track often at all. the luxury side of the M3 was very big for me. I also love the looks and performance of the M3 very classy and sporty. I think mustangs look very cheap inside and out. but again its a good car for the price! |
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Mustangs I like, and I like the way they drive. But I think if I wanted a tack toy I'd just spend $10-15k on a nice used RWD platform, and put another $5-10k in modifications, then just go have a blast without worrying about warranties, insurance or dented sheet metal. Last time I went to Shenandoah, there was this guy in a superbly prepared single turbo 240SX, running some 400WHP and with handling extremely well sorted out. It basically ran circles around me and I could only watch in awe the things he was doing with it. (better driver too).
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What's not to like?
Buying tires and brakes for the 1LE. I realize this might not be a big deal for the occasional track guy but if you are doing an event a month thats a lot of $$ for those big square 285's or wider tires and lots of pad you'll eat up with that 4100lb+ race weight. That's like using an E39 M5 as your track car, except with bigger brakes, more tire, more speed to slow down and oh yeah, terrible visibility
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Hope you don't run into to many issues with trying to get things fixed, ford has terrible rep for screwing people when it comes to repairs/warranty.
Few of my buddies totally got thrown under the bus with their mustangs so its not just forums. All that aside the boss is a sweet track car, congrats!
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You're right about the weight tending to eat tires and brakes, but as long as you go with dedicated track wheels, tires (DOT legal track sneakers), pads and rotors, you should be OK. Tires and brakes used to last me seven or eight track days, and as you know, Dot legal track sneakers are cheaper than extreme performance street rubber, and race pads aren't much. Even with aggressive pads, rotors are generally good for a couple of seasons or more. Yeah, it ain't cheap, but it'll almost certainly be cheaper than outfitting an M3 the same "proper" way - at least initially. I did this dedicated trackware thing for twelve seasons in a variety of cars, and it saved me cash over each of those seasons. Bruce Last edited by bruce.augenstein@comcast.; 06-11-2013 at 12:39 PM.. |
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06-19-2013, 10:45 PM | #83 |
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Congrats on the new car. It's compelling to me as a big fan and owner of an M3. I oogle these cars extensively when I catch one in a parking lot somewhere.
However, on the warranty side:
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Not to spoil your excitement, however what they "say" and what they "do" may be totally different things. If its not in writing, I wouldn't trust a damn thing they say. That goes for any warranty on any car.
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