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06-12-2012, 02:36 PM | #24 | |
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That e36 may be turbocharged. I have seen a custom-made turbo setup on the S50 motor and damn it is fast. Quote:
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06-12-2012, 11:41 PM | #27 | |
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Now, for M DCT, M division decided that in Sequential mode, M-car drivers would prefer as much manual control as possible, thus they disabled the kick down feature that would otherwise function as normal in D mode. But M decided to include a function within S mode that allowed instantaneous drop to the lowest gear possible for maximum acceleration, without the need to pull the downshift paddle multiple times. To achieve this (obviously you need to be in S mode already), floor the throttle and make sure the kick down button is depressed and then pull the downshift paddle once only. In practise, this is an extremely quick way of achieving maximum acceleration from a steady cruise. This all in the supplementary M3 manual btw. Last edited by mlhj83; 06-13-2012 at 12:00 AM.. |
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06-18-2012, 04:35 PM | #28 |
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I can downshift into 3rd gear at 80 in my DCT M
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I DEFINITELY DO NOT want to bring back the 6MT vs DCT stupidity, but if this situation hasn't been brought up as one of the 6MT's pro's, it should be.
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06-19-2012, 04:29 PM | #31 | |
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It is also worth noting, that for a lot of people, they don't always know the optimum gear for a particular road speed for maximum acceleration. It's people who take driving seriously that know. For example, your average person may be able to tell you whether you need to change up or change down a gear based on the feel of whether the engine is over-revving or labouring, but once they get to a steady cruise and suddenly need maximum acceleration, majority cannot tell you the exact gear that would give maximum acceleration. This is because the driver has lost the incremental feel of accelerating and decelerating from one gear to another. Don't believe me? Ask your friends, neighbours, relatives, random people etc, whether they know with absolute certainty what the optimum gear is for acceleration at any given speed for their car. Most will be at least one gear off. Last edited by mlhj83; 06-19-2012 at 05:51 PM.. |
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06-19-2012, 05:24 PM | #32 |
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Pretty sure you raced a sleeper lol. If it was an old non M E36, 4th gear should've obliterated him. Looks can be deceiving. Obviously his gold teeth gave him the edge in performance
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I fully agree with you on the second half! You misunderstood where I was going though on why driving 6MT is advantageous in regards to this situation.
It's not that selecting 3rd in a MT is somehow advantageous, it's the fact that IF he was familiar with or had been driving a 6MT, he would more than likely have known the optimal gear to be in for the situation. A MT by nature forces you to be more in touch with the engine, because you're making decisions that in a DCT a computer would make for you. I can't speak for all, but I have faith that if you asked a person who takes even the slightest interest in motor sport and drives a MT ( this goes for all cars of course ) where their power band begins and ends the majority would get it correct. A DCT would have gotten to 3rd faster and could have started pulling earlier, we both know that. I'm just saying that the OP would most likely have had the knowledge to realize that a pull in 4th gear @ 65 mph probably isn't the best choice, if he had been driving a MT. This post is a prime example. How many people do u know that would just go with w/e gear the DCT gives you?
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Only explanation is the guy had to have a motor swap, but more then likely a turbo. Even a supercharged e36 m3, unless making around 450+whp would not be able to beat you the way this guy did with 2 other people in the car.
Don't worry, it looked the way it did, so he could do exactly what he did to you. Sleeper cars are built for 1 purpose, to embarass those that can afford real cars. |
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Maybe he had NOS! LMAO
Anybody can buy a $5000 E36 car and make it fast. I know I can. Fact. Been there, done that and moved up and on.
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When you get spanked by a 15 year old E36, you should appreciate the skill and labor and knowledge the owner put into his car. In my view, he is far more of a car enthusiast than most people in this forum.
Anyone with $70k can go out and buy a car that is already pretty fast. That takes no skill or labor, and very little knowledge. |
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