Car and Driver 2012 M3 ZCP vs. 2012 C63 AMG coupe

[gthal]

^--- Yeah, after a little digging, I did find out that they weigh the car... I didn't realize that. Options would play a role. It is actually neat how they show weight by corner.

[rantarM3]

Originally Posted by BMoney

I would definitely agree with the tranny. I have a 2010 C63 and the tranny blows compared to the DCT. I hear the MCT is better but it's still not a true dual clutch. I hope AMG drops one in the next gen C63...if not I'll probably go back to an M3. My tires are wearing fast but not too bad really. My rears have 12K currently and can probably make it to 15K before they have to go!

I found it was better to leave it in Sport mode and let the tranny do the shifting. It will drop down to 4th on the highway when you romp it while in Manual mode you'd have to go down gear by gear (taking what seems like an eternity). I am very surprised you're getting that much life out of the tires. I did not beat on the car and just did a daily commute of 50 miles. Even tried 265's out back but nothing worked. Maybe Florida roads are rougher on tires.

[Genericuser1]

Originally Posted by gthal

Just curious how much seat time you have in a 2012 C63 to make this comment or if it is based on older models or what you have read? I ask because I own an M3 and have spent time with a 2012 C63 coupe on the track and the difference in feel is not significant. True, the M3 is still the more precise car but to call the C63 a "luxury musclecar" is uniformed and I suspect you have no real seat time to back this up. The 2012 cars are VERY new to the market and many who "speculate" do so based on what they hear on internet forums, a preconceived bias or what they read relative to older model reviews.

The C63 does have more of a musclecar feel because of the power/torque but it is also a very refined and balanced car with great steering feel (more feedback than the M3 in my opinion) and is a capable track car. M3 is still a tick better for sure but it is damn close.

Only seat time has been in a 2009 sedan so the 12 coupe may be different. The 09 just felt less precise and more tail happy to me.

The C63 is a nice car don't get me wrong. I like the new coupe especially the interior.