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      01-15-2012, 12:44 AM   #1
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BBS CH-R Black Edtion wheels : A comparison between 20" and 19"

Hi guys. A joint effort here from MFKN3 and yours truly. MFKN3 ordered a set of BBS CH-R 20" black edition rims from www.baanvelgen.com. The wheels and tyres shipped Fedex (free) ex Holland substantially cheaper than you could buy locally. After seeing these and on the recommendation of MFKN3 I got a set too, only the 19" version.

The supplier (Hendrik) was very happy to have the wheels re-coated in matte black to remove logos and retain the OEM competition look to meet my requirements.
The rims are 9" (front) and 10.5"(Rear) and are fitted with 295x 25x20" /295x30x19" and 245x 30x 20 /245x35x19, the front tyres being the same with as stock.

The wheels look quite good I think on both cars and are great value. The supplier was extremely helpful and met all expectations which made for a very pleasant transaction.

Tyres were fitted and balanced and well packed for shipping

Below a video showing both sets... hope you enjoy.













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      01-15-2012, 01:00 AM   #2
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Very nice, they look handsome on both! How is the ride on the 20 inch version? What size tires as well? They look beefy.
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      01-15-2012, 01:55 AM   #3
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Very nice, they look handsome on both! How is the ride on the 20 inch version? What size tires as well? They look beefy.
I can't say for sure about the ride as I have the 19"s but I'm told the ride is firm but very comfortable with the 20"s


Tyres for the 20"

Conti SP3 245 x 30 x 20" front and 295 x 25 x 20" rear

Tyres for the 19"

Michelin SP2 245 x 35 x19" front and 295 x 30 x 19" rear
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      01-15-2012, 03:21 AM   #4
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      01-15-2012, 04:26 AM   #5
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whats a nice 18'' that will fit over an 380mm brembo?
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      01-15-2012, 04:39 AM   #6
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whats a nice 18'' that will fit over an 380mm brembo?
Hi Leigh
The best person to talk to would be Andrew at Southern BM, hopefully you are not too far away from Moorabbin. Nice choice of brakes :-)
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      01-15-2012, 06:04 PM   #7
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Very nice! Just wondering, how did you guys go about marking the boxes and values when importing? I'm just about to have my own wheels come across from the USA and i'm wondering the best way to try and avoid the GST / Duty.

Did you just risk it and bring it in with the full value listed or modify it to a smaller amount?

Thanks!
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Very nice! Just wondering, how did you guys go about marking the boxes and values when importing? I'm just about to have my own wheels come across from the USA and i'm wondering the best way to try and avoid the GST / Duty.

Did you just risk it and bring it in with the full value listed or modify it to a smaller amount?

Thanks!
You can't, and any supplier in his right mind won't fill out a false declaration of value. You just have to forget about it and pay the duties or you would end up with serious problems.
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You can't, and any supplier in his right mind won't fill out a false declaration of value. You just have to forget about it and pay the duties or you would end up with serious problems.
HAHAHAHAHA come on you can be a little naughty!
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HAHAHAHAHA come on you can be a little naughty!
Little hard to list 4x BBS + Tyres <$1k. The setup here would probably retail ~$7k.

The 20's are a little stiffer than the 19's, but I'm lowered on H&R Sport Plus which feel a little more firm than DaveDee's on H&R Sports. Interestingly the Michelins also have a much squarer sidewall than the conti's which look more stretched - both are 295 width. They're Conti 5P btw.
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Well, you could deal with the fines & consequences for stamp duty fraud.
And the insurance will only cover the declared value.

Pay the extras and do it properly.

Love the CH-R's, even in black.

Here's a pic of a freshly waxed silver 19" set with E92 M3 offset on a clients E46 M3:






Why don't you guys have the rim protectors? (stainless lip around the outside)
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Why don't you guys have the rim protectors? (stainless lip around the outside)
They're just held on by 3M tape and look like time attacks. I just think it looks cleaner without them and I never hit curbs
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Thanks for posting this! I just ordered a set of 19" CH-Rs. I am waiting eagerly!
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They're just held on by 3M tape and look like time attacks. I just think it looks cleaner without them and I never hit curbs
really? but i do like the look of these wheels.
they are legit.
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They're just held on by 3M tape and look like time attacks. I just think it looks cleaner without them and I never hit curbs

Absolutely


We donated them to our local pollies so they can be used as halos in the upcoming election.
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Little hard to list 4x BBS + Tyres <$1k. The setup here would probably retail ~$7k.

The 20's are a little stiffer than the 19's, but I'm lowered on H&R Sport Plus which feel a little more firm than DaveDee's on H&R Sports. Interestingly the Michelins also have a much squarer sidewall than the conti's which look more stretched - both are 295 width. They're Conti 5P btw.
how about kw clubsports an akra and 380mm brembos? lol
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how about kw clubsports an akra and 380mm brembos? lol
The shipping on your $500 akra was a bit steep at $6k

Probably not worth the risk on commonly known items like tyres.

Leigh, I hear the import duties paid for your centrelink allowance?? just kidding..
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The shipping on your $500 akra was a bit steep at $6k

Probably not worth the risk on commonly known items like tyres.

Leigh, I hear the import duties paid for your centrelink allowance?? just kidding..
well the akra wasnt 6k and i think all up i saved 4k that i didnt pay on tax because we already pay enough i think.

the 4k went to the ess 650 kit i got from southern bm would much rather give it to them
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I'm with leigh on this 1, who likes paying tax. WE PAY SO MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY
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It was a real pleasure preparing these two sets and the outcome is really nice and flush. Especially the custom 19" set works really good with the beefy 295/30-19 tires.

If anybody is interested or just want some advise, don't hesitate to contact us, we are happy to help.
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So for those that are interested, i spoke to customs today and any wheels that are sourced and manufactured wholly in the USA are a scheduled item under the Australia - USA Free trade agreement and are free from any duty charges.

I basically paid the $55 dollar fee to an agent, got the supplier to fill out a declaratation and the wheels / tires will come GST / Duty free! Which makes the purchase price very appealing once again. If anyone wants more info PM me but it's a fairly straight forward process
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