M3 with moonroof?????

labelexec · 08-01-2008, 11:04 PM

how many of you have the moonroof on your M3? what do you guys think about moonroof?

ihyln · 08-01-2008, 11:08 PM

If you have an E90 it's almost required and it really lets you hear the engine under power. For the E92s it's personal preference and a whole other debate..

lebreeze · 08-01-2008, 11:15 PM

I have a coupe with a moonroof and I use it everyday. The carbon fiber is cool but I rather my moon roof. It's all personal preference

elcarajo · 08-02-2008, 01:06 AM

I can't completely disagree with Laszlo, but I figured I enjoy the hell out of having a sunroof, and I very rarely need the extra thousandths of a second that shaving 20kg off the roof would give me. If mine were a dedicated track bar, I'd offset the weight savings tenfold anyway with a rollbar.

Personal preference.

M3WC · 08-02-2008, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

It's SO NOT required if you have an e90 M3. I have a sunroof delete and save 37lbs and tons of rattles down the road... and the car is SO MUCH quieter inside without a sunroof. And not only do you save weight, but your chassis is much, much stiffer... and a sunroof is DEATH to any sports car.

+1

Plus if you plan on tracking the car. There is more headroom for you and your helmet.

schnell325 · 08-02-2008, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lebreeze

I have a coupe with a moonroof and I use it everyday. The carbon fiber is cool but I rather my moon roof. It's all personal preference

Same here.

MTROIS · 08-02-2008, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

It's SO NOT required if you have an e90 M3. I have a sunroof delete and save 37lbs and tons of rattles down the road... and the car is SO MUCH quieter inside without a sunroof. And not only do you save weight, but your chassis is much, much stiffer... and a sunroof is DEATH to any sports car.

+1

dawgdog · 08-02-2008, 07:33 AM

I have the coupe with the CF roof and do miss the moonroof. That is not to say I regret not having it, but I do miss it. I now do a fair amount of driving with the windows down.

Big Windy · 08-02-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgdog

I have the coupe with the CF roof and do miss the moonroof. That is not to say I regret not having it, but I do miss it. I now do a fair amount of driving with the windows down.

i'll probably fall into this boat too (get CF and miss the sunroof). this might be lame, but i'd feel like sellout if i opted out of CF on the coupe. it is a must have for me. for the sedan i'd go with the sunroof for sure. i drive with the windows down all the time anyway, so hopefully it won't be a big difference

ihyln · 08-02-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laszlo

It's SO NOT required if you have an e90 M3. I have a sunroof delete and save 37lbs and tons of rattles down the road... and the car is SO MUCH quieter inside without a sunroof. And not only do you save weight, but your chassis is much, much stiffer... and a sunroof is DEATH to any sports car.

Sunroof is not "DEATH", seriously, stop being so melodramatic. The M3 is a GT in its simplest explanation. I don't quite understand your need for a quiet cabin considering how loud the engine/exhaust get.

Take things into perspective, you won't be tracking the car more than a few times a year anyway so the other 350 some odd days you won't get to enjoy the moonroof.

Can you please quote where the moonroof adds 37lb? I'm just curious to know where that figure came from.

icemang17 · 08-02-2008, 09:41 AM

BMW published that the CF roof is 44lbs (if I remember correctly) lighter than the steel moonroof.....

The non sunroof cars do have more headroom....which is nice for those of us that track our M3's....

RandyB · 08-02-2008, 11:47 AM

I think they eventually leak and require maintenance, all the while adding unnecessary weight in a very bad place. Plus you have to wax around them all the damn time. I have never had one myself and likely never will.

ihyln · 08-02-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyB

I think they eventually leak and require maintenance, all the while adding unnecessary weight in a very bad place. Plus you have to wax around them all the damn time. I have never had one myself and likely never will.

Leaks and maintenance?

What's that? Keeping it clean? Not leaving it open in the rain? I agree that it's extra weight but leaks are quite uncommon. Don't spread FUD, though.

Voltigeur · 08-02-2008, 12:24 PM

I have a moonroof on my 2 5ers and love them. Frankly, one of them did get a broken arm (probably caused by having it tilted and going over some bumpy TX back roads).

No leaks and the one that hasn't been repaired is totally quiet; little bit of wind noise over 80 mph in the other.

I like my roofs and use them. If you don't use them then get the CF. I will likely opt for a 'roof when I order the E92.

nusevad · 08-02-2008, 12:56 PM

Moonroof FTL.

But it comes down to opinions, I lost to another E92 M3 because it had a moonroof and the "judges" though a moonroof was more special than CF roof.

pittsy · 08-02-2008, 01:34 PM

I think it is more personal preference, I never used the moonroof in my last car so I order this car with the CF roof, if I would have used the moonroof more then I would have order a moonroof.

The Shiekh · 08-02-2008, 01:43 PM

I love my moonroof, I also get claustrophobic at times haha so it helps. I love the cf roof too but I believe that is a M6 original, not m3.

Kadarin · 08-02-2008, 02:01 PM

I happen to like the moonroof, and the extra light that it lets into the car.

RandyB · 08-02-2008, 02:57 PM

The crime here for those who don't like or want sunroofs is the rising number of vehicles that you can't get without one here in the US, anyways.

It's just extra moving parts that will require attention eventually. Get what you want and be glad it's still optional on some cars, and not mandatory.

Davinhci · 08-02-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Shiekh

I love my moonroof, I also get claustrophobic at times haha so it helps. I love the cf roof too but I believe that is a M6 original, not m3.

wtf, then what about the angel eyes? they not M3 original.

arr0gant · 08-02-2008, 10:15 PM

I doubt anyone will actually be able to feel a weight difference. I personaly don't see how anyone could go without a MR.

PLAYON · 08-02-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadarin

I happen to like the moonroof, and the extra light that it lets into the car.

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by arr0gant

I doubt anyone will actually be able to feel a weight difference. I personaly don't see how anyone could go without a MR.

+1

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elcarajo Enlisted Member 1 Rep 48 Posts Drives: E92 M3, 6MT JzB/FR 19s no mods Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maine iTrader: (0)	I can't completely disagree with Laszlo, but I figured I enjoy the hell out of having a sunroof, and I very rarely need the extra thousandths of a second that shaving 20kg off the roof would give me. If mine were a dedicated track bar, I'd offset the weight savings tenfold anyway with a rollbar. Personal preference.
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dawgdog Colonel 148 Rep 2,278 Posts Drives: 2015 M3, 2016 GT3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. iTrader: (0)	I have the coupe with the CF roof and do miss the moonroof. That is not to say I regret not having it, but I do miss it. I now do a fair amount of driving with the windows down. __________________ 2015 f80 M3, 2016 GT3
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icemang17 Captain 41 Rep 644 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockton CA iTrader: (0)	BMW published that the CF roof is 44lbs (if I remember correctly) lighter than the steel moonroof..... The non sunroof cars do have more headroom....which is nice for those of us that track our M3's.... __________________ Brian 2008 E92 M3, MR, DCT, extended BB leather, loaded! 1988 Porsche 928S4, Guards red/Champagne leather 1989 Porsche 928S4 track beast!!!
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RandyB Lieutenant Colonel 20 Rep 1,504 Posts Drives: '03 330i, '09 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	I think they eventually leak and require maintenance, all the while adding unnecessary weight in a very bad place. Plus you have to wax around them all the damn time. I have never had one myself and likely never will.
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Voltigeur MacroRisk 109 Rep 2,523 Posts Drives: M3 E92 ED'09 / 335d Sport DD Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	I have a moonroof on my 2 5ers and love them. Frankly, one of them did get a broken arm (probably caused by having it tilted and going over some bumpy TX back roads). No leaks and the one that hasn't been repaired is totally quiet; little bit of wind noise over 80 mph in the other. I like my roofs and use them. If you don't use them then get the CF. I will likely opt for a 'roof when I order the E92. __________________ Just thinking of something not so witty ///M3 E92 '09 Jerez Black \| 6MT \| Ext Fox Red \| Tech \| Prem \| 19s \|Heated Seats \| iPod \|Smartphone \| Euro Deliv June 09 Sold: 540iT / 530i / 323i
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The Shiekh Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 267 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Danville, CA iTrader: (1)	I love my moonroof, I also get claustrophobic at times haha so it helps. I love the cf roof too but I believe that is a M6 original, not m3. __________________ -James aka The Shiekh 2008 E92 M3 6MT SSII/Silver Novillo/Sycamore BPU+ lol
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RandyB Lieutenant Colonel 20 Rep 1,504 Posts Drives: '03 330i, '09 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	The crime here for those who don't like or want sunroofs is the rising number of vehicles that you can't get without one here in the US, anyways. It's just extra moving parts that will require attention eventually. Get what you want and be glad it's still optional on some cars, and not mandatory.
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arr0gant Lieutenant 32 Rep 517 Posts Drives: 1996 911 Carrera Cab Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: St. Louis iTrader: (0)	I doubt anyone will actually be able to feel a weight difference. I personaly don't see how anyone could go without a MR. __________________ 1996 911 Carrera Cabriolet 2006 Porsche Cayman S, 2004 M3 Vert, 2008 BMW M3 Sedan, 2001 911 Turbo, 2002 Porsche 911 C4S, 2004 Cadillac CTS-V, Porsche Boxster S
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