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MONTEREY, Calif., Aug. 13, 2010 – Ford gave the green light only once before: In 1968, management approved a special Mustang – a car that sacrificed nothing in its quest to be the best all-around road-going performance machine ever created by Ford Motor Company. That car became the 1969 Mustang Boss 302, and it remains one of the world's most sought-after examples of American performance.

Forty-two years later, Ford has given the green light again.

The team of Ford engineers, designers and stylists – all Mustang enthusiasts to the core – that created the groundbreaking 2011 Mustang GT has distilled a new model to its purest form, strengthening, lightening and refining each system to create a race car with a license plate. Its name: the 2012 Mustang Boss 302.

"The decision to build a modern Boss was not entered into lightly," said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. "The entire team at Ford felt the time was right and with the right ingredients, the world-class 2011 Mustang could support a successful, race-bred, worthy successor to the original Boss 302. For us that meant a production Mustang that could top one of the world's best – the 2010 BMW M3 – in lap times at Laguna Seca. We met our expectations."

To celebrate the racing heritage of the new Mustang Boss 302, Ford will also offer a limited number of Boss 302 Laguna Seca models, named for the track where Parnelli Jones won the 1970 Trans-Am season opener in a Boss 302. Aimed at racers more interested in on-track performance than creature comforts, the Boss 302 Laguna Seca has increased body stiffness, a firmer chassis set-up and an aerodynamics package carried over almost in its entirety from the Ford Racing Boss 302R.

Philosophy and powertrain

"The new Boss 302 completely redefines Mustang capability," said Mark Fields, Ford president of The Americas. "That the Mustang team was able to take the current Mustang GT – already a world-class performance car – and refine it further for peak track performance shows the commitment Ford has to this car and its legions of fans."

Driving the 2012 Mustang Boss 302 was intended from the outset to be a visceral experience, packed with raw, unbridled performance across the spectrum: Acceleration, handling, braking, and top speed are all equally matched for perfect balance on a car operating within the framework of legally defined safety, noise and emissions regulations.

"The team at Ford wanted to offer their fellow Mustang enthusiasts something really special – a beautifully balanced factory-built race car that they could drive on the street," explains Dave Pericak, Mustang chief engineer. "The Boss 302 isn't something a Mustang GT owner can buy all the parts for out of a catalog or that a tuner can get by adding a chip. This is a front-to-back re-engineered Mustang with every system designed to make a good driver great and a great driver even better."

Led by Mike Harrison, the V8 engine team approached Boss from the top down: With 412 horsepower from 5.0 liters, the 2011 GT engine was already an incredible performer. But to achieve the high-rpm horsepower that would make the engine competitive on the track, a new intake was essential. The resulting runners-in-the-box plenum/velocity stack combination the engine team developed was impressive enough that it got the green light after one short drive.

Helping the intake build power, revised camshafts using a more aggressive grind are actuated with the same twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) mechanism used on the Mustang GT. More aggressive control calibration yields 440 horsepower and 380 lb.-ft. of torque, while still offering a smooth idle and low-end torque for comfortable around-town driving.

A race-inspired clutch with upgraded friction materials transmits power, while a short-throw, close-ratio six-speed manual transmission handles gear change duties.

Power is delivered to a 3.73 ratio rear axle using carbon fiber plates in the limited-slip differential to improve torque handling and longevity. For those who want even more precise control over power delivery, a torque-sensing (Torsen) limited-slip differential is an available option coupled with Recaro front seats.

Sounds like the Boss

While the powertrain team defined output targets that would yield an ideal balance with the chassis, another team made sure the car made the kind of sounds owners and enthusiasts would expect from a Mustang Boss.

Up front, a Boss-specific intake system is tuned to feed the engine with minimum restrictions. A retuned induction sound tube provides concrete aural evidence of what's occurring under the hood. And, in the Boss exhaust system engineers really had some fun.

"With an exhaust system, we have to consider three constraints: legal noise restrictions; backpressure, which can rob power; and ground clearance," explains Shawn Carney, Mustang NVH engineer. "Since the 2011 Mustang GT exhaust is already so free-flowing – it came in way under our backpressure targets – we already had excellent performance; we were able to tune the exhaust system for a unique sound. Combined with the rush of the intake, the exhaust system really envelops the driver in V8 sound."

Every Boss features a unique quad exhaust system: Two outlets exit in the rear similar to a standard Mustang GT. The other two outlets exit to either side of the exhaust crossover, sending exhaust through a set of metal discs that act as tuning elements before the pipes terminate just ahead of the rear wheel opening. Visually subtle, the side pipes flow very little exhaust but a lot of exhaust sound, providing a sonic experience unlike any other Mustang – and giving home tuners an additional avenue for modification.

"We added the attenuation discs to meet legal regulations, but we knew buyers might operate these cars in situations where noise regulations weren't an issue," Carney said. "The disc is removable and includes a spacer plate sized to match aftermarket exhaust dump valves. If an owner wants to add a set of electric valves, they just undo two bolts on either side; the disc and spacer slide out and the valve will slide right in. And the side pipes are tuned so that drivers can run wide-open and the sound levels are comfortable – very aggressive but livable for an all-day track outing."

Carney further explains the thinking behind the unusual step of an OEM easing aftermarket component installation. "We're Ford engineers, but we're also enthusiasts," he says. "We understand owner mods are part of the Mustang experience, so we try to help where we can."

Suspension and steering

In keeping with the Boss mandate to provide the best-handling Mustang ever, the already strong Mustang GT suspension system has been further refined. Higher-rate coil springs on all four corners, stiffer suspension bushings and a larger-diameter rear stabilizer bar all contribute to the road racing mission, and Boss models are lowered by 11 millimeters at the front and 1 millimeter at the rear versus the Mustang GT. The real key to handling, though, is in the adjustable shocks and struts, standard on all Boss Mustang models.

"We've given drivers five settings for their shocks," says Brent Clark, supervisor of the Mustang vehicle dynamics team. "One is the softest, two is the factory setting and five is the firmest, and we've provided a wide range of adjustment. A customer can drive to the track on setting two, crank it up to five for improved response on the track, then dial down to one for a more relaxed ride home. What's unique is that drivers will find – thanks to the way the suspension works as a complete system – the softest setting isn't too loose and the firmest setting isn't too controlled; each step just provides additional levels of control."

Also unique is the method of shock adjustment. Ditching the weight and complexity of electronic wizardry, the Mustang team opted for traditional race-style hands-on adjustability – similar to the Gabriel shocks available on the original Boss 302.

"The shock adjustment is right at the top of the shock tower, built into the rod and easily accessible from under the hood or inside the trunk," says Clark. "You just take a small flat-head screwdriver, turn the adjustment screw between one and five, and head back out onto the track."

To complement the suspension, the speed-sensitive electronic steering system has been retuned to maximize feedback and road feel to the driver. The driver is also given the option of fine-tuning the steering feel to his liking by selecting one of three settings through the instrument cluster menu: Comfort, normal and sport modes help offer track-tuned steering when desired without sacrificing low-speed maneuverability in parking situations and everyday commuting.

Similarly, Boss receives unique traction control system (TCS) and electronic stability control (ESC) settings to help drivers achieve maximum performance whether on the street or at the track. Both systems can be completely disabled in controlled track situations where maximum driver skill is utilized, or fully engaged for maximum safety during normal driving or in less-than-ideal traction conditions. Intermediate sport mode allows drivers to push their cars hard at the track without completely disabling the safety systems, permitting more aggressive driving before the TCS and ESC systems intervene.

Brakes, wheels and tires

Working in concert with the suspension upgrades, Boss 302 receives unique, lightweight 19-inch black alloy racing wheels in staggered widths: 9 inches in front, 9.5 inches in the rear. The Pirelli PZero summer tires are sized specifically for each end of the vehicle, with the front wheels receiving 255/40ZR-19 tires while the rear stays planted thanks to 285/35ZR-19 rubber.

The combined suspension and tire package allows Boss to achieve a top speed of 155 mph and become the first non-SVT Mustang ever to achieve more than 1.0 g of lateral acceleration.

Boss braking is also up to the challenge, using Brembo four-piston front calipers acting on 14-inch vented rotors up front. In the back, standard Mustang GT brakes are upgraded with a Boss-specific high-performance pad compound. Combined with vented brake shields and unique Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) tuning, Boss drivers get maximum control and rapid, repeatable fade-free stops in road and race situations alike.

The Mustang team spent considerable time ensuring the brake pedal feel met the expectations of performance drivers. Boss receives unique low-compressibility brake lines that expand up to 30 percent less than traditional flexible brake lines, allowing maximum fluid pressure to reach the calipers in the least amount of time, giving the driver a sensation of being connected directly to the brake pads.

"This car is wicked fast, so we put a lot of emphasis on giving it comparable stopping power," says Clark. "We started with a race-proven brake system and tuned it specifically for the characteristics of the Boss 302 and its mission. They're the best brakes ever installed on a Mustang, and they give consistent, repeatable braking performance on the street and the track."

As a result 60-0 stopping distances for the Boss are improved by approximately three feet versus the Mustang GT with available brake package; combined with suspension and engine improvements, Boss is expected to show approximately a two-second lap time improvement over the GT on a typical road race course. But the numbers tell only part of the story.

"We achieved measurable improvements over GT, which was already one of the best-braking cars we've ever designed," explains Clark, "but what's harder to quantify is how good these brakes feel to a driver in a race situation. Like everything on this car, the brakes are more than the sum of their parts: They're tuned from pad to pedal to work perfectly as a system, and the difference is dramatic."

Exterior and interior design

Changes to the Mustang Boss exterior are subtle but unmistakable. True to its race-bred heritage, every component that could potentially aid aerodynamics or engine/brake performance was examined to make the vehicle more competitive, while chief designer Darrell Behmer refined the styling to evoke the 1969 Boss in a contemporary way.

"We approached this as curators of a legend," explains Behmer. "We've taken design cues from the '69 Boss street car and the menacing Bud Moore/Parnelli Jones race cars and carefully updated them to give the 2012 the proper bad-boy attitude that is unmistakably a Boss Mustang."

To set Boss apart, each car will have either a black or white roof panel, coordinated to the color of the side C-stripe. Available exterior colors are Competition Orange, Performance White, Kona Blue Metallic, Yellow Blaze Tri-Coat Metallic and Race Red.

Up front, a unique fascia and grille are highlighted by the blocked-off fog lamp openings and aggressive lower splitter, a version of the design used – and proven – on the Boss 302R race car. The front splitter is designed to function at high speeds by efficiently managing the air under and around the car. It helps to reduce underbody drag and front end lift while more effectively forcing air through the Boss-specific cooling system. At the rear of the car, the spoiler was chosen to complement the front aero treatment and minimize overall drag.

"What we were after on Boss was reduced overall lift with improved balance," says Pericak. "We needed to keep the car glued to the street or the track at high speeds without increasing drag or affecting top speed and fuel usage. The end result is an aero package that uses front, rear and underbody treatments not for show, but for effect – the balance and stability of this car all the way to its 155-mph top speed is just outstanding."

Inside, a unique Boss steering wheel covered completely in Alcantara suede complements the standard seats, which are trimmed in cloth with a suede-like center insert to firmly hold occupants in place. Boss customers who want the ultimate seating experience can select a package that includes Recaro buckets, designed by Ford SVT in cooperation with Recaro for high performance Mustang models, and shared between the Boss and GT500.

A dark metallic instrument panel finish, gauge cluster and door panel trim also differentiate Boss from the standard Mustang, while a black pool-cue shifter ball and "Powered by Ford" door sill plates further remind customers they're in a special car.

The Boss interior gets an aural kick thanks to what's been removed. Eleven pounds of sound-deadening material have been eliminated to let occupants further enjoy the intake, engine and exhaust note.

"Boss is a hallowed word around here, and we couldn't put that name on a new Mustang until we were sure everything was in place to make this car a worthy successor," explains Pericak "We were either going to do it right or not do it at all – no one on the team was going to let Boss become a sticker and wheel package.

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MONTEREY, Calif., Aug. 13, 2010 – Ford gave the green light only once before: In 1968, management approved a special Mustang – a car that sacrificed nothing in its quest to be the best all-around road-going performance machine ever created by Ford Motor Company. That car became the 1969 Mustang Boss 302, and it remains one of the world's most sought-after examples of American performance.

Forty-two years later, Ford has given the green light again.

The team of Ford engineers, designers and stylists – all Mustang enthusiasts to the core – that created the groundbreaking 2011 Mustang GT has distilled a new model to its purest form, strengthening, lightening and refining each system to create a race car with a license plate. Its name: the 2012 Mustang Boss 302.

"The decision to build a modern Boss was not entered into lightly," said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. "The entire team at Ford felt the time was right and with the right ingredients, the world-class 2011 Mustang could support a successful, race-bred, worthy successor to the original Boss 302. For us that meant a production Mustang that could top one of the world's best – the 2010 BMW M3 – in lap times at Laguna Seca. We met our expectations."

To celebrate the racing heritage of the new Mustang Boss 302, Ford will also offer a limited number of Boss 302 Laguna Seca models, named for the track where Parnelli Jones won the 1970 Trans-Am season opener in a Boss 302. Aimed at racers more interested in on-track performance than creature comforts, the Boss 302 Laguna Seca has increased body stiffness, a firmer chassis set-up and an aerodynamics package carried over almost in its entirety from the Ford Racing Boss 302R.

Philosophy and powertrain

"The new Boss 302 completely redefines Mustang capability," said Mark Fields, Ford president of The Americas. "That the Mustang team was able to take the current Mustang GT – already a world-class performance car – and refine it further for peak track performance shows the commitment Ford has to this car and its legions of fans."

Driving the 2012 Mustang Boss 302 was intended from the outset to be a visceral experience, packed with raw, unbridled performance across the spectrum: Acceleration, handling, braking, and top speed are all equally matched for perfect balance on a car operating within the framework of legally defined safety, noise and emissions regulations.

"The team at Ford wanted to offer their fellow Mustang enthusiasts something really special – a beautifully balanced factory-built race car that they could drive on the street," explains Dave Pericak, Mustang chief engineer. "The Boss 302 isn't something a Mustang GT owner can buy all the parts for out of a catalog or that a tuner can get by adding a chip. This is a front-to-back re-engineered Mustang with every system designed to make a good driver great and a great driver even better."

Led by Mike Harrison, the V8 engine team approached Boss from the top down: With 412 horsepower from 5.0 liters, the 2011 GT engine was already an incredible performer. But to achieve the high-rpm horsepower that would make the engine competitive on the track, a new intake was essential. The resulting runners-in-the-box plenum/velocity stack combination the engine team developed was impressive enough that it got the green light after one short drive.

Helping the intake build power, revised camshafts using a more aggressive grind are actuated with the same twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) mechanism used on the Mustang GT. More aggressive control calibration yields 440 horsepower and 380 lb.-ft. of torque, while still offering a smooth idle and low-end torque for comfortable around-town driving.

A race-inspired clutch with upgraded friction materials transmits power, while a short-throw, close-ratio six-speed manual transmission handles gear change duties.

Power is delivered to a 3.73 ratio rear axle using carbon fiber plates in the limited-slip differential to improve torque handling and longevity. For those who want even more precise control over power delivery, a torque-sensing (Torsen) limited-slip differential is an available option coupled with Recaro front seats.

Sounds like the Boss

While the powertrain team defined output targets that would yield an ideal balance with the chassis, another team made sure the car made the kind of sounds owners and enthusiasts would expect from a Mustang Boss.

Up front, a Boss-specific intake system is tuned to feed the engine with minimum restrictions. A retuned induction sound tube provides concrete aural evidence of what's occurring under the hood. And, in the Boss exhaust system engineers really had some fun.

"With an exhaust system, we have to consider three constraints: legal noise restrictions; backpressure, which can rob power; and ground clearance," explains Shawn Carney, Mustang NVH engineer. "Since the 2011 Mustang GT exhaust is already so free-flowing – it came in way under our backpressure targets – we already had excellent performance; we were able to tune the exhaust system for a unique sound. Combined with the rush of the intake, the exhaust system really envelops the driver in V8 sound."

Every Boss features a unique quad exhaust system: Two outlets exit in the rear similar to a standard Mustang GT. The other two outlets exit to either side of the exhaust crossover, sending exhaust through a set of metal discs that act as tuning elements before the pipes terminate just ahead of the rear wheel opening. Visually subtle, the side pipes flow very little exhaust but a lot of exhaust sound, providing a sonic experience unlike any other Mustang – and giving home tuners an additional avenue for modification.

"We added the attenuation discs to meet legal regulations, but we knew buyers might operate these cars in situations where noise regulations weren't an issue," Carney said. "The disc is removable and includes a spacer plate sized to match aftermarket exhaust dump valves. If an owner wants to add a set of electric valves, they just undo two bolts on either side; the disc and spacer slide out and the valve will slide right in. And the side pipes are tuned so that drivers can run wide-open and the sound levels are comfortable – very aggressive but livable for an all-day track outing."

Carney further explains the thinking behind the unusual step of an OEM easing aftermarket component installation. "We're Ford engineers, but we're also enthusiasts," he says. "We understand owner mods are part of the Mustang experience, so we try to help where we can."

Suspension and steering

In keeping with the Boss mandate to provide the best-handling Mustang ever, the already strong Mustang GT suspension system has been further refined. Higher-rate coil springs on all four corners, stiffer suspension bushings and a larger-diameter rear stabilizer bar all contribute to the road racing mission, and Boss models are lowered by 11 millimeters at the front and 1 millimeter at the rear versus the Mustang GT. The real key to handling, though, is in the adjustable shocks and struts, standard on all Boss Mustang models.

"We've given drivers five settings for their shocks," says Brent Clark, supervisor of the Mustang vehicle dynamics team. "One is the softest, two is the factory setting and five is the firmest, and we've provided a wide range of adjustment. A customer can drive to the track on setting two, crank it up to five for improved response on the track, then dial down to one for a more relaxed ride home. What's unique is that drivers will find – thanks to the way the suspension works as a complete system – the softest setting isn't too loose and the firmest setting isn't too controlled; each step just provides additional levels of control."

Also unique is the method of shock adjustment. Ditching the weight and complexity of electronic wizardry, the Mustang team opted for traditional race-style hands-on adjustability – similar to the Gabriel shocks available on the original Boss 302.

"The shock adjustment is right at the top of the shock tower, built into the rod and easily accessible from under the hood or inside the trunk," says Clark. "You just take a small flat-head screwdriver, turn the adjustment screw between one and five, and head back out onto the track."

To complement the suspension, the speed-sensitive electronic steering system has been retuned to maximize feedback and road feel to the driver. The driver is also given the option of fine-tuning the steering feel to his liking by selecting one of three settings through the instrument cluster menu: Comfort, normal and sport modes help offer track-tuned steering when desired without sacrificing low-speed maneuverability in parking situations and everyday commuting.

Similarly, Boss receives unique traction control system (TCS) and electronic stability control (ESC) settings to help drivers achieve maximum performance whether on the street or at the track. Both systems can be completely disabled in controlled track situations where maximum driver skill is utilized, or fully engaged for maximum safety during normal driving or in less-than-ideal traction conditions. Intermediate sport mode allows drivers to push their cars hard at the track without completely disabling the safety systems, permitting more aggressive driving before the TCS and ESC systems intervene.

Brakes, wheels and tires

Working in concert with the suspension upgrades, Boss 302 receives unique, lightweight 19-inch black alloy racing wheels in staggered widths: 9 inches in front, 9.5 inches in the rear. The Pirelli PZero summer tires are sized specifically for each end of the vehicle, with the front wheels receiving 255/40ZR-19 tires while the rear stays planted thanks to 285/35ZR-19 rubber.

The combined suspension and tire package allows Boss to achieve a top speed of 155 mph and become the first non-SVT Mustang ever to achieve more than 1.0 g of lateral acceleration.

Boss braking is also up to the challenge, using Brembo four-piston front calipers acting on 14-inch vented rotors up front. In the back, standard Mustang GT brakes are upgraded with a Boss-specific high-performance pad compound. Combined with vented brake shields and unique Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) tuning, Boss drivers get maximum control and rapid, repeatable fade-free stops in road and race situations alike.

The Mustang team spent considerable time ensuring the brake pedal feel met the expectations of performance drivers. Boss receives unique low-compressibility brake lines that expand up to 30 percent less than traditional flexible brake lines, allowing maximum fluid pressure to reach the calipers in the least amount of time, giving the driver a sensation of being connected directly to the brake pads.

"This car is wicked fast, so we put a lot of emphasis on giving it comparable stopping power," says Clark. "We started with a race-proven brake system and tuned it specifically for the characteristics of the Boss 302 and its mission. They're the best brakes ever installed on a Mustang, and they give consistent, repeatable braking performance on the street and the track."

As a result 60-0 stopping distances for the Boss are improved by approximately three feet versus the Mustang GT with available brake package; combined with suspension and engine improvements, Boss is expected to show approximately a two-second lap time improvement over the GT on a typical road race course. But the numbers tell only part of the story.

"We achieved measurable improvements over GT, which was already one of the best-braking cars we've ever designed," explains Clark, "but what's harder to quantify is how good these brakes feel to a driver in a race situation. Like everything on this car, the brakes are more than the sum of their parts: They're tuned from pad to pedal to work perfectly as a system, and the difference is dramatic."

Exterior and interior design

Changes to the Mustang Boss exterior are subtle but unmistakable. True to its race-bred heritage, every component that could potentially aid aerodynamics or engine/brake performance was examined to make the vehicle more competitive, while chief designer Darrell Behmer refined the styling to evoke the 1969 Boss in a contemporary way.

"We approached this as curators of a legend," explains Behmer. "We've taken design cues from the '69 Boss street car and the menacing Bud Moore/Parnelli Jones race cars and carefully updated them to give the 2012 the proper bad-boy attitude that is unmistakably a Boss Mustang."

To set Boss apart, each car will have either a black or white roof panel, coordinated to the color of the side C-stripe. Available exterior colors are Competition Orange, Performance White, Kona Blue Metallic, Yellow Blaze Tri-Coat Metallic and Race Red.

Up front, a unique fascia and grille are highlighted by the blocked-off fog lamp openings and aggressive lower splitter, a version of the design used – and proven – on the Boss 302R race car. The front splitter is designed to function at high speeds by efficiently managing the air under and around the car. It helps to reduce underbody drag and front end lift while more effectively forcing air through the Boss-specific cooling system. At the rear of the car, the spoiler was chosen to complement the front aero treatment and minimize overall drag.

"What we were after on Boss was reduced overall lift with improved balance," says Pericak. "We needed to keep the car glued to the street or the track at high speeds without increasing drag or affecting top speed and fuel usage. The end result is an aero package that uses front, rear and underbody treatments not for show, but for effect – the balance and stability of this car all the way to its 155-mph top speed is just outstanding."

Inside, a unique Boss steering wheel covered completely in Alcantara suede complements the standard seats, which are trimmed in cloth with a suede-like center insert to firmly hold occupants in place. Boss customers who want the ultimate seating experience can select a package that includes Recaro buckets, designed by Ford SVT in cooperation with Recaro for high performance Mustang models, and shared between the Boss and GT500.

A dark metallic instrument panel finish, gauge cluster and door panel trim also differentiate Boss from the standard Mustang, while a black pool-cue shifter ball and "Powered by Ford" door sill plates further remind customers they're in a special car.

The Boss interior gets an aural kick thanks to what's been removed. Eleven pounds of sound-deadening material have been eliminated to let occupants further enjoy the intake, engine and exhaust note.

"Boss is a hallowed word around here, and we couldn't put that name on a new Mustang until we were sure everything was in place to make this car a worthy successor," explains Pericak "We were either going to do it right or not do it at all – no one on the team was going to let Boss become a sticker and wheel package.
Wow, this could be a game changer..

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Boss 302 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GT500

When was the last time you heard a muscle car with an 8000 rpm redline? Can you imagine how good this thing will sound ?
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Beat me to it, OP. This definitely has my eyebrows raised. Ford is kicking ass out there.

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When was the last time you heard a muscle car with an 8000 rpm redline? Can you imagine how good this thing will sound ?
Does it really have an 8000RPM redline like the race version? If so, damn, I officially want to go drive one of these! That engine is going to be an absolute beast.

And yes, this is definitely better than the GT500.

Edit: 7500 RPM. GT is 7000 RPM. Still nice, but not quite a special as if it were 8000 RPM.

http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=33066

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Very nice to see Ford raising the bar for American car manufactures.

As someone already stated Ford is the 1 American manufacture that I am proud of as i feel they "get it" and the performance delivered at what i am sure will be a great "bang for you buck" price point will hopefully bring them allot of new customers.

My only issue with the car is it's looks, Mustang styling totaly screams 20 yr old racer to me sorry that just dosent fit me anymore though i suppose i'd think it was the sh*t if I was still 20...

That being said congrats again to Ford for putting out a great product!
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Wow. Ford keeps surprising me by continually raising their performance bar. Ford really "gets it"--that's been clear with their latest Mustang entry. Sure, I'm sure some will point out that it won't have an IRS, but I doubt that will get in the way on the track--and if the performance they're throwing out there is true then it's not all that relevant since it "beats" the M3.

Ford really seems to be trying to carve a niche with enthusiasts. From the way they designed the exhaust, intake, and headers on the "base" Coyote to this car, they seem to understand there's the basic Mustang buyer (V6) and the hard-core enthusiast. Ford seems to have found a way to cater to both. Even the more performance oriented Mustang GT versions have even more performance oriented sub-models: GT500 and then this.

What do we get? The "edition" M3s (meh) or ZCP (nice, but not in the same league of enhancements as this BOSS Mustang). Where is the "Bad Ass M3 Extreme Version"? And no, I'm not taking about those models available in Europe at stratospheric prices which may appeal to the hardcore very rich enthusiast or collector but not the rest of us. (Which aren't even available in the states.) Maybe Ford can do this due to the number of units the Mustang sells and that gives Ford some latitude that BMW doesn't have. And if that's the case, well, I get it.

The thing is, the current M3 has potential for producing more power (see the South African "special edition") yet we have nothing here in the states. The usual reasons given are EPA certification, regulations, DOT, etc. That all seems like to me (unless I'm missing something) since clearly Ford was able to do it with this limited edition car. Modifying the exhaust, intake, ECU, and cams isn't just a suspension, EDC, or MDM mode set of changes--it hits the CARB and EPA stuff directly. So if Ford can do it....

I'm sure there would be buyers for a KW Clubsport type suspension, SA style power bump, and other hard core factory mods to the M3. It would be great if BMW were to take on this challenger and re-establish it's premier position and offer a true enthusiast version of the last NA M3 that would kick this car's ass--assuming it didn't cost 100K of course!

Yeah, I know, keep dreaming....

In any case, this is a really good effort by Ford and I commend them for continuing to improve and push the envelope on their product.

Edit: I agree about the car's looks...but I applaud the effort and focus Ford is bringing to the market these days....

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Slap that engine into a compact or mid-sized sedan with AWD or RWD and I'd be in line ready to buy.

440hp AWD sedan for $40k...wipes drool away...
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Slap that engine into a compact or mid-sized sedan with AWD or RWD and I'd be in line ready to buy.

440hp AWD sedan for $40k...wipes drool away...
They'll surely put this in the Falcon soon. But you can only get one in Australia. If only Ford would give Lincoln RWD cars like GM has for Cadillac.
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I feel the same way about BMW.
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Hahahahahaha.... BMW makes you want to vomit? Then what are you doing on a BMW forum with a roundel as your avatar?
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Wow, 7500rpm..nice.

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Wow. Ford keeps surprising me by continually raising their performance bar. Ford really "gets it"--that's been clear with their latest Mustang entry. Sure, I'm sure some will point out that it won't have an IRS, but I doubt that will get in the way on the track--and if the performance they're throwing out there is true then it's not all that relevant since it "beats" the M3.

Ford really seems to be trying to carve a niche with enthusiasts. From the way they designed the exhaust, intake, and headers on the "base" Coyote to this car, they seem to understand there's the basic Mustang buyer (V6) and the hard-core enthusiast. Ford seems to have found a way to cater to both. Even the more performance oriented Mustang GT versions have even more performance oriented sub-models: GT500 and then this.

What do we get? The "edition" M3s (meh) or ZCP (nice, but not in the same league of enhancements as this BOSS Mustang). Where is the "Bad Ass M3 Extreme Version"? And no, I'm not taking about those models available in Europe at stratospheric prices which may appeal to the hardcore very rich enthusiast or collector but not the rest of us. (Which aren't even available in the states.) Maybe Ford can do this due to the number of units the Mustang sells and that gives Ford some latitude that BMW doesn't have. And if that's the case, well, I get it.

The thing is, the current M3 has potential for producing more power (see the South African "special edition") yet we have nothing here in the states. The usual reasons given are EPA certification, regulations, DOT, etc. That all seems like to me (unless I'm missing something) since clearly Ford was able to do it with this limited edition car. Modifying the exhaust, intake, ECU, and cams isn't just a suspension, EDC, or MDM mode set of changes--it hits the CARB and EPA stuff directly. So if Ford can do it....

I'm sure there would be buyers for a KW Clubsport type suspension, SA style power bump, and other hard core factory mods to the M3. It would be great if BMW were to take on this challenger and re-establish it's premier position and offer a true enthusiast version of the last NA M3 that would kick this car's ass--assuming it didn't cost 100K of course!

Yeah, I know, keep dreaming....

In any case, this is a really good effort by Ford and I commend them for continuing to improve and push the envelope on their product.

Edit: I agree about the car's looks...but I applaud the effort and focus Ford is bringing to the market these days....
Remember, even at the Boss's power level it is still only 88hp/litre. The M3 is already at 103hp/litre. Ford built in improvement that wouldn't cost much. The intake manifold is what they are using on the GrandAM cars.

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WOW amazing performance for the price. I have to give Ford props for this. Definately a good weekend or track car. I need luxury and all the gadgets for a DD but this Mustang paired with a luxury sedan (5 or 7 series) is a nice garage
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Remember, even at the Boss's power level it is still only 88hp/litre. The M3 is already at 103hp/litre. Ford built in improvement that wouldn't cost much. The intake manifold is what they are using on the GrandAM cars.

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Good point, and I know the S65 puts out a tremendous amount of power/liter. On the other hand, if this thread is correct, exhaust, ECU management, and intake will give the South African Edition M3 an additional 30 HP and close to the same in TQ improvement. Would that be smog legal in the states? No idea, as I don't know what the SA regulations are like for comparison.

It may be that Ford had room to work with on both a power and pollution level with their powerplant whereas BMW has maxed out that area....but there's still room for a more track-oriented suspension that might challenge Ford's latest effort. I guess I'd just like to see them try even though I know that's not going to happen.
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An excellent concept and execution. It's bound to be a hit. M3 track performance at a 20K discount. BMW should be proud that Ford saw their M3 as the benchmark.

Did anyone else notice that the 5.0L V8 actually IS 302 ci? I was a bit surprised.

What I wouldn't be surprised about is if the Boss 302 matches or exceeds the sales of the GT500.
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Here's the specs and marketing materials on the car...notice the Laguna Seca Boss...rear seat delete, Rcompound Pirellis and so on...awesome.

http://forums.themustangsource.com/a...g_boss_302.pdf

http://forums.themustangsource.com/a...oss_302_ls.pdf

http://forums.themustangsource.com/a...s_ls_specs.pdf

http://forums.themustangsource.com/a...boss_specs.pdf

I was 5 yrs. old when my dad (who worked for Ford) came home in a Grabber Orange 1969 Boss 302, my twin brother and I were considered the luckiest kids in the neighborhood.
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I swear GM's moniker is becoming not unlike Godwin's law in the world of car forums. Anyway, the political hyperbole is not necessary (here's my own jab: it's entirely wrong and the sentiment shows a lack of historical knowledge and brings to light an extreme political bias, sorta like the fringe left that compared Bush to Hitler).

Go Ford! I can't wait to see more of the BOSS.
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