is it cheap to buy a m3 without navigation?

[RCKe90]

Originally Posted by ismelllikepoop

im not buying a car based on resale value. im buying the car to enjoy it

[McLuVan]

it will cost more because when you decide to resale
you will get A LOT less.....more than what you saved

[spyderco10]

Originally Posted by urbo73

The point is that you'll have a harder time SELLING your car w/o Nav - which you will.

Not in Hawaii

[FStop7]

Originally Posted by ismelllikepoop

im not buying a car based on resale value. im buying the car to enjoy it

that's what everybody says, until the time comes when they want to sell their cars.

[badfish]

If I did have to buy a used M3, the last thing I would want is an outdated navigation system that made doing simple things more difficult. But that's just me and I didn't buy my car for the resale value either. I don't think it's cheap to buy the car w/o Nav, I paid more for my car w/o Nav than people are paying for the car fully loaded now. It would have just been a drop in the bucket. I knew in advance that I didn't want I-drive, the extra hump, and a navigation system that pales in comparison to a $300 portable device that I could move from car to car.

[spyderco10]

Originally Posted by badfish

If I did have to buy a used M3, the last thing I would want is an outdated navigation system that made doing simple things more difficult. But that's just me and I didn't buy my car for the resale value either. I don't think it's cheap to buy the car w/o Nav, I paid more for my car w/o Nav than people are paying for the car fully loaded now. It would have just been a drop in the bucket. I knew in advance that I didn't want I-drive, the extra hump, and a navigation system that pales in comparison to a $300 portable device that I could move from car to car.

same here. only options i got on my car were leather, 19" wheels, and alarm. i didn't get anything else because I didn't WANT anything else. even if the options were free i wouldn't take it. and the advantage of a "stripped" M3 is it should be one of the lightest around

[midlifecrisis]

I'm in the single hump camp for a few reasons.

1. My wife has an '07 X3 with NAV. It's just not that good. I understand that it's different and not as good as the M3's Idrive based unit - but I think my Garmin 360 is way better. And portable. And about $1,600 cheaper. I don't mind spending money, but I don't want to feel like a sucker, either.

2. They seem to intoduce some way cool new GPS feature every couple of years. It's much easier to keep up with the technology with a portable unit. I guess this isn't so much of a problem for people who lease.

3. I tend to keep a car for a long time, and I want to keep it as simple as possible. I've been told that some of the electronics become problematic down the road. I'm not interested in the hassles.

4. I like guages and dials better than digital readouts and touch screens. I'd prefer that my car not feel like a video game. I know, I'm an old school dinosaur.

One of the great things about BMW is we can all configure our cars the way we want. I hope they never change!

[J08M3]

If you lease the car resale doesn't matter.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by FStop7

that's what everybody says, until the time comes when they want to sell their cars.

x3.14

[RandyB]

The resale argument is so tired and irrelevant. I hope there isn't anyone here that actually configured their car based on this theory. You owe it to yourself to get what you want, and for no other reason than you want it.

[montreal red]

Originally Posted by FStop7

If I could have M drive without also having nav I'd do it in a second. I don't like OEM nav systems, they're always a few steps behind the current portable nav units.

yea agree with this totally... but hopefully the new idrive on my 09 would be a step into the future. i'll know when i get my car.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by RandyB

The resale argument is so tired and irrelevant. I hope there isn't anyone here that actually configured their car based on this thoery. You owe it to yourself to get what you want, and for no other reason than you want it.

I think so too, RandyB.

I mean I've got my E46 sitting in the driveway next door (no one lives there, its a spec home and its a fucked-up layout that nobody wants) and I keep thinking I should put it up on this board or ebay or auto-trader, but maybe I'm just too emotionally attached to it. I will soon tho, probly, because its costing me insurance money. Actually, I'd let it go for 15k right now if someone walked up to me with the money in hand.

Really though, its not a good idea to buy a car with resale in mind. Who cares? I don't care. I decide to buy a car like I decide to have another kid. Its a real commitment. Maybe I'm not the norm, but for me I'll have the car as long as I think I can use it as a reliable daily driver. I don't get this switch-cars-every-two-or-three-years ideal. I mean, this is my iron steed I'm buying here. It's goes til it drops dead (or until BMW offers 0.9% on the successor ).

[MrAdams]

A "cheap M3" is not very cheap haha. I say go all the way! get the iDrive

[ismelllikepoop]

Originally Posted by RandyB

The resale argument is so tired and irrelevant. I hope there isn't anyone here that actually configured their car based on this theory. You owe it to yourself to get what you want, and for no other reason than you want it.

seriously. if it's such a huge deal, then i can just sell my used one for 2100 less than the other ones on the market and sell it pretty easily. people who are trying to pick up used models are more influenced by price compared to singular options. either way im enjoying my car just fine without nav.

[watrob]

I would want more than $2100 off the price, to get the NAV installed after, if at all possible would be closer to $5,000 plus what ever other options that were missing because the bigger screen not there etc.

This is all academic anyway because I would not buy a secondhand M3 without Nav not when every other one on the market has got it.

How many secondhand white M3's do think will be out there in 3 years all competting for buyers, it will be buyers choice.

[jackos335]

Originally Posted by aznrr

just wondering.

Although my M3's navigation is not as great as my Lexus GS's, it is still a necessity for me. There are times that I'm glad I have it. Plus it really cuts down on travel time when going somewhere I"m not familiar with. I'd say get it.

[b16r1ch]

I live without it - the aesthitic of a 'two hump' dash killed it for me. The only options I have on my 08 E92 M3 are Premium and EDC...tried to keep it 'pure' and cheap. =)

-Rich

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by watrob

I would want more than $2100 off the price, to get the NAV installed after, if at all possible would be closer to $5,000 plus what ever other options that were missing because the bigger screen not there etc.

This is all academic anyway because I would not buy a secondhand M3 without Nav not when every other one on the market has got it.

So you are one of those people that went out and bought the iPhone cause everybody had one? Would you jump off a bridge if everyone in the market did it? Some of us don't want what everybody has. Some of us like to be different. These people will still be buying cars when we go to sell ours. Only an idiot would buy a non NAV car and then try and add it so your $5000 off is completely irrelevant.

[Voltigeur]

Originally Posted by ase2dais

for pre-owned, folks buying the much of a car will want Nav.... you are hurting yourself when you resell it IMO

+1 Not all (@ KingTut is right), but I believe most will want the tech.

[aus]

Originally Posted by b16r1ch

I live without it - the aesthitic of a 'two hump' dash killed it for me. The only options I have on my 08 E92 M3 are Premium and EDC...tried to keep it 'pure' and cheap. =)

-Rich

Finally someone who understands what an M car should be.

An if a buyer wants a Nav, I'll throw in a Garmin unit if I had to resell, which I don't since I'm leasing.
Have any of you Nav fanboys ever used a Garmin? They're soooo much better than the BMW unit.

[RandyB]

Originally Posted by b16r1ch

I live without it - the aesthitic of a 'two hump' dash killed it for me. The only options I have on my 08 E92 M3 are Premium and EDC...tried to keep it 'pure' and cheap. =)

-Rich

Same here - the two hump is unsightly to any purist. I got Leather, EDC, CF trim and 19s on mine. I could have lived without it all, but wanted a few extras.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by aus

Finally someone who understands what an M car should be.

An if a buyer wants a Nav, I'll throw in a Garmin unit if I had to resell, which I don't since I'm leasing.
Have any of you Nav fanboys ever used a Garmin? They're soooo much better than the BMW unit.

I personally like my navigation units integrated. The look of a Garmin attached to a windshield is unsightly. Just because some of us want an integrated navigation unit doesn't make us any less purists than those of you that don't. While you believe that the Garmin is significantly better than the BMW unit, I am highly satisfied with what BMW has offered.